Hi guys. I’m level 60 with fairly strong weapons, heavy custom armor and pretty good attribute settings if not just a little “well rounded”. Recently I learned that The Judge occasionally drops a pretty nice truncheon so I went there to take him on. This is a public official server. Well, I know I can stand on the lip of the pillar hips that are around him and pump 140 star metal arrows into his back without getting attacked myself but that seems so dishonorable. I tried three time and each time that headless menace one-hit me. So the 4th time I brought my best T4 fighter all dressed for extreme battle, gave us all the potions we could eat, reset my attributes and tried again. In one hit 98% or 99% of my health was gone and he followed that up with a sharp quick finisher and then killed my T4 fighter before my character could even completely die/respawn.
How many here have killed him face to face and how did you do it?
He’s a bit of a bastard, but I have done him in melee, I just don’t remember how I did it. It was either Axe and Board or Katana. But usually I just put arrows into his knees and kite him.
Yeah, he’s Siptah’s equivalent of the Arena Champion. Last time I took him on was with one-handed axe - the fourth heavy attack knocks him off his feet, so you can keep him down. But I haven’t been on Siptah since the change to how stagger works, and this tactic no longer seems to be working so well against the arena champion so might now have the same problems against the Judge. It can still be done, but now you have to knock them down once, then spend a bit of time maneuvering without getting hit to give them time to get back to being able to be staggered before you can reliably do it again. I did find I could generally knock the Arena Champion off her feet twice before she started ignoring stagger, but I wouldn’t want to rely on it as she also seemed to snap out of it early on a couple of occasions.
I’ve also, in the past, had decent success against them with poison daggers, but I know that pretty much relied on keeping them staggered so is unlikely to work now.
They’re definitely much harder fights than they used to be - I lost a lvl18 Cim Berserker to the Arena Champion recently (and they used to be able to handle it without player help - and I was doing a lot of damage myself at the same time…)
Oh, extra thought - he may be a fight you want to consider trying medium or light armour for (depending on your fighting style) - if he’s going to one shot you anyway in heavy armour, you might as well have the extra stamina instead (at least, that’s my logic…)
Use lighter armor + shield and roll often to Give spacing. Hit and run tactics and block when you can’t get space. He isn’t so bad once you get the timing down.
Poison and bleed affects him. If doing it without a thrall, plunk Set or firespark (if you are lucky enough RNG that feat) arrows will be your best friend…takes about 30 Set arrows if you time it right. As for thralls…feroxic or grey ones weapons are handy. What I personally use thrall has ghoul mace and I use annoying shard. Thrall inflicts poison while I am hitting it with bleed. Goes down real nice then.
oh and BTW, the truncheon is Coup de Gras. Its great for farming T4 thralls but be warned…ONLY t4 thralls because it kills every T1-3 thrall. If you are just filling your benches at first, don’t use it. Use it when your benches have workers. Also note that if the enemy doesn’t have stamina to drain down to be able to be knocked out, the club will not do anything to that enemy (IE 1 skull elites and beasts etc). It’s true advantage is when you are just farming the south island for T4’s. Put it on your thrall and let them go at it in each camp. Drag your t4’s to your wheel and just cycle through the camps. The 1 skull elites will have to be taken out by you.
Yes, but not by much. One poison arrow cloud for it’s entire duration reduces him only 43 points. If you keep that going the entire time then you only need 110 star metal arrows to kill him - instead of 140. (and even then all of those 140 (or 110) need to be on time or the total number needed increases.
Ah, that gives me an idea! Javelins knock back all bosses I’ve tried them on. I could load up all of my slots with those throwing spears keep him knocked back at a distance, then climb a pillar to reload my slots. I’ll let you know how it goes when I get a chance to try it.
Yeah, that’s an idea. I mean he’s one-hitting heavy armor anyway so nothing to lose (except my life of course). But yeah, that would make it a challenge! Imma gonna try that too.
Not poison arrows…set arrow (from the set altar). The ones that directly give poison vs the noxious gas. The same type that can be stacked up to 10 providing 20 damage per second with you only needing to shoot a set arrow within 8 seconds to maintain the stack of 20 damage each second. It works but takes a few minutes. But I’m an impatient type of guy so I get my thrall to start hammering on him while I attack the rear safely. Thrall doing poison and I’m doing bleed.
Yep, that’s where I’m at and what I’m doing for the most part now. But giving me and my thrall the “Love Tap” truncheons - which I think are supposed to be stronger than the steel ones? I’m kinda wondering now though because I ran into a pair or Yellow name cooks with “razor” in their name-string and it seems like Love Tap couldn’t affect them at all. I spent 45min, my thrall and I whacking on them and finally had to spend another 15min to kill them off. I don’t remember if they had a skull or not but they had “Cook” under their names. Yeah, on the southern islands… Very tough. One of the reasons I was trying to get that killer truncheon from The Judge.
Lovetap’s mediocre in direct power comparison…what it has is the mace massive combo of like 5 hits (and combos have increased per hit damage) but I personally love the other aspect…it’s the only truncheon that can be used on while riding a horse. You don’t even have to unsaddle. Just knock them out and bind them on the horse…freaking awesome in efficiency.
Razor Gord is unthrallable as far as I know, so that’s probably what happened there (I’ve fallen for a few of those over the years - spent over an hour knocking out an AoC enemy - his ko bar kept going down - turned out when it reached zero that he just couldn’t be ko’d…).
Love Tap may not be helping you, it’s a much worse truncheon than the steel one - its advantage is that it can be used from horseback, unlike the others. On Siptah, try to get the recipe for the Heavy weight truncheon - that’s pretty much best for straight ko on the ground.
Edit: Expand the table marked ‘Weapons and Kits’ for more full info on truncheon ko power -
Yeah, I saw that done on youtube. But the guy was standing on the lip of the pillar hip the whole time too. But I don’t have Set although I could make and level it just temporarily for this purpose I don’t want more than one altar in the base.
Those snake arrows are identical to the ones used in the 1983 movie BTW.
Awe, damn! Well it was fun trying to stay alive for 45 min anyway.
Oh damn. Well good to know.
Yeah, that’s how I’m using it. Keeps me from dying (and having to repair my armor all the time). I love fighting from horseback - or Rhino back too!
Yeah, on the ground with T3 captures I’ve noticed that. Since it does that the total time to capture is decreased - thus why I thought it was more powerful. Heh, learn sumptin every day.
I use an accursed beserker with a feroxic great sword on him and even at level 10 they get the job done and at the most lose half hp. I just stand on one of the concrete blocks that are on the floor and occasionally stab him with a pike. Beserkers are a 100% spawn at leyshrine of the goblinoid
I equip a shield and use the poison short sword (forget the name I think voidforge?). I hold the shield up to break his stride, when he knocks back, I press 1 heavy attack and then 3 quick light attacks, he staggers back with each hit, I then equip shield and repeat the process, it takes a long time but I eventually get there.
The way I used to do it when I played Siptah was to use the axe combo to keep him down. The full combo would knock him to the ground, and if I could time things right, I could apply more bleed and knock him back down as soon as he got up.
Unfortunately, that was in early access, and there have been changes to the bleeding, the combos, and the AI, so I don’t know if it would still work… My gut tells me that it wouldn’t.
Plus, even back then it was super risky to do that without a thrall to take over if your ping went even slightly up and you didn’t time things right.
Yeah, I’ve tried a few things since yesterday. I can’t get him to fall or stumble around, at all - no matter what - so maybe that was removed from him? I can get the throwing spears to push him back about one block’s distance - but it’s a smooth slide backwards and doesn’t mess with his gate or tempo at all. And for some reason you have replenish your spears manually. They act like foundation blocks - when the last one of 10 is spent you’re left with a shadow of itself where you have to open inventory and drag another 10 to it’s place - even shift-click is a no-go. Using those it looks like it will take about 80 or 90 of them to defeat him (if indeed I can drag & drop fast enough) - expensive boss!
Using the light armor method and rolling a lot doesn’t seem to work well for me either. He uses one of them poker staves and the “reach” attribute is just enough to one-hit me when standing up from a roll. So, maybe I can fight him for 7 or 8 minutes when that happens to and it’s all over. If I wanna hit & run I think daggers might work - with that back-flip mechanic.
About an hour or so ago the server went laggy for some reason so I’m out for the day, err, night. - I think when anyone tries those new Sorcery Pits the entire server starts lagging - not sure.
Voidforge gladius is the best weapon against the judge, very easy boss with this weapon boss cant do anything if you keep attackin it constantly, all the better if your weapon is made by a good bladesmith
I just fought him again last night wearing a mix of light silent legion armor and serpent/bat light items. I used a grey ones short sword and shield and had no trouble killing him. Only had to drink 1 healing potion. Also, I have 68% DR in that armor and noticed his hits took maybe 1/8 my life (40 in vit). So far away from nearly one-shotting me in light armor.
It sounds like you have a couple issues perhaps. Maybe you are using armor that is too weak (likely need >60% DR) and your latency may be a bit high (why you can’t avoid his attacks).
or not but they had “Cook” under their names. Yeah, on the southern islands… Very tough. One of the reasons I was trying to get that killer truncheon from The Judge. 
(I’ve fallen for a few of those over the years - spent over an hour knocking out an AoC enemy - his ko bar kept going down - turned out when it reached zero that he just couldn’t be ko’d…).
boss cant do anything if you keep attackin it constantly, all the better if your weapon is made by a good bladesmith