Make all build areas purge eligible

Omg. There are dozens of threads about this being a problem, and there are many people still talking about it on officials. Finding videos about conan without the exact wording of the video is hard. It’s not a game that is played that much and most of the time it’s something you won’t realised while it’s live. Even CodeMage, someone I saw you talking to a lot on the forums, admitted to doing it himself. It was a mechanic, and might still be. IDK, I don’t read all the patch notes. There’s literally no point in arguing about the existence of using purges to destroy other people’s bases, it literally was something that was used before, intentionnaly or not.

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Same response… And that last guy is a massive exaggerator - we know him well!

You still HAVE NOT produced even one video of this occurring.

Sorry I’m not a streamer and that I don’t record every thing I do.

Like I said, I already give you proof it happened in the past, at least. Why do you need a video? You do realise MOST people are also not recording their gameplay and when something like an offline purge pulling happened, you’re likely not going to record it since, well, you’re offline.

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You don’t have to be offline for it to happen - if it happens. It’s almost impossible for it to happen in the first place - and I contest that is why there are no videos of it. If it were an actual problem and at all common there would be videos of it - likely more than a few. There are videos of every other bug, gripe, and mishap… but not this… why? I say because it never happens - or is exceptionally rare. And again, someone logging on and finding some stuff broken or missing and then guessing it was a kited purge is absolutely NOT proof of any kind.

Back over a year ago a beserker purge hit out maproom at Mounds and the issue was every one had a maproom at Mounds so the purge also affected all clans on the map…it was cool because there was a unity of fighting to game and we all defended each other’s property.

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Yeah, now that I might buy… satellited structures like maprooms in close proximity…

You like arguing over nothings, don’t you?

Normal mobs cannot do enough damages on structures, so if your log says « Hyenas » destroyed your base, it’s likely it’s from a purge. I don’t even think most NPC can do any damages at all on structures if they are not from a purge. Read somewhere that some like the dragons might do damage, but you’re not likely to be near one.

Three skulls bosses can still be kited, however, that distance is very small. You cannot kite mobs from all over the map like you used to be able to do. If you’re not close to one, that’s something else to rule out. Beside, a three skulls croc got kited many times to my base and, while it killed a bunch of my animals, it never did enough damages to destroy my t1 fences.

If you’re playing in PVE and you’re purge meter isn’t high, if your base it half destroyed and not admin whiped, the most likely answer is (or, at least, was) a purge that was not yours.

I snooped around a bit in the past hour on the forums to find more proof that it was not that uncommon, and found one comment from you. You totally dismissed someone that was likely grieffed.

The situation seemed to have improved since steam is not as accessible to chinese players, but it still can happen. I found a reddit thread from less than a year ago about someone being confused because their purge destroyed their friend’s base instead.

It is not exceptionnaly rare . I’ve never seen players walling up someone else’s base and I would not say it’s rare. There are enough testimonies about it.

So, yeah, as I said, maybe it was intentional, maybe not, but if your base is half destroyed, you were probably hit by someone else’s purge.

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FWIW, I’ve seen one clan’s purge damage another clan’s buildings, with my own two eyes. It wasn’t on purpose, though. No, I don’t have any videos of it, either.

I also have no doubt that people do that on purpose, because people are shіtty. Case in point: I’ve seen people kite Elder Things from Maelstrom on purpose, too, during Siptah early access.

It’s not trivial to pull off, because you can’t control which base the purge will target, but it’s definitely doable. And if it’s doable, griefers will do it. :man_shrugging:

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I’m pretty sure someone from my current server has done it. I can’t proove it, and I first I thought they had build a small base just to be ready when the base they were near would decay. I’ve seen them be near 2-3 bases waiting for the timers, most of them clearly had purge damages and were not own by newer players unaware of the purge mechanics. It was all in the same week. I can’t prove anything, since they legit could have just been rats waiting for the decay timers, but it’s really suspicious over all. I don’t think purge kiting is now impossible.

It takes two to tango… :stuck_out_tongue:

You’re not on youtube very often I assume. Heck, here’s one from me even:

So, now you have. :slight_smile: And there are at least ten others on YouTube as well.

Yes, that’s extremely common. In fact that’s some people’s main activity on PVE servers. They run around to all the bases that seem as if they might have loot in, note the decay timers, and make sure they’re on-site and ready the minute it goes into decay.

Bosses, NPCs and even dragons do not damage user structures at all - unless they are part of a purge - or maybe if the server is bugged. This has been true for at least the last 18 months. So if someone has a PVE server log showing animals or NPCs destroyed something on an Official server then it’s a kited or overflowed purge.

It is incredibly rare tho - there is no question about that. For one it’s already rare for people to build close enough to each other that it even could happen. Probably the numbers are like 1 to 3 people on a 60 to 90 player server. And of those 1 to 3 that are actually close enough, the person receiving the purge would need to sacrifice their own base to do any damage at all to the other as it’s not possible to kite more than about 10% of the enemy spawns. And then of those 10% only one or two of them would choose to hit a building rather than continue to pursue the player - or return to the actual focus of the purge if they lose aggro. A player could maybe do something like stand on the other player’s property with a boss or two in aggro and dodge the hits while those hits did property damage. So maybe one or two T3 blocks could be destroyed - maybe. This also assumes the other player has no thralls in the area - making it even more rare.

The probability that this could be done to a T3 base with even a few thralls to the extent where the damage was major: 0.00001% It’s just nonsense! Sure, if the target was a T1 base (no one who cares about their base builds T1) with nearly no thralls, and builds or maintains a base near enough to another (and we are talking right on the property line, then maybe. Yeah, 0.00001% is about right. I call that exceptionally rare! :stuck_out_tongue:

I like how you’re literally giving me the same arguments I gave you and now you changed your tune to « it happens ». Literally, I explained how it is easy to see if it was someone else’s purge that hit you and you use the same arguments I used « against » me. Maybe try to not start petty arguments over things you already aknowledge can happen…

I reiter, if you do not have the EXACT words of something your search for, for conan, you’re not gonna find it. On youtube, if someone was indeed attacked by someone else’s purge, it is likely not going to be named « SOMEONE ELSE’S PURGE ATTACKED ME », and if such clip exist, it is most likely to be a small fragment in a big video and I don’t have time to look for hundred of hours of long ass video just to prove your something you’re already acknowledging to exist. You literally dismissed my trauma and concerns by saying I was paranoiac. You’re probably not someone very empathetic. It’s also very weird to be that dismissive. Why does it bother you so much that I don’t want people to use their purge against me? EVEN if it is something that RARELY happens, don’t I have every right to not want it to happen to me? You even gave me half baked solution as « move out » while almost denying this kind of thing could happen. And if I had showed you videos about that situation happening to me, you would probably have shamed me and said that I should have made more efforts to avoid the situation. I don’t want to loose my progress just because one day a clan of griefers decides to invade my server. I know it happened, because I’ve been told by older clans that they had to unite against them. I’m already taking the necessary precautions to avoid logging in to a destroyed base one day. If a new player decides to build next to me and provoke a purge on my stuff without knowing he could do that would also be horrible. I. Don’t. Want. This. And believe me, I’ve seen enough people building next to random remote bases that I know it would only be a matter of time before someone build something on my doorstep.

Even if something happens ONCE every six months, it is still too much. I should not have to worry about offline purges on a pve server when my purge meter is empty. I won’t be building near T3 and T4 purges for that reason. I’ve seen people get whiped by these purges even in T3. Not everyone has a full on army of thralls either. I’m slowing lvling mine, and if I’m not expecting a purge soon, why should I prepare for other people? Being in the noob river area protects me from having to worry about this kind of behavior, especially in a time where I can’t play constantly everyday. I would be playing in PVP if I wanted to be on my toes every night. My point was never about purge pulling happening everyday on every server. My point was to acknowledge that purge pulling exists and that I want to be safe from that in case it happens. I play in PVE-C and I always sleep naked, even inside my own base, because I’m aware that some people can hack themselves inside your base, or I always make sure to trap my thralls inside my base so other players won’t try to kite them inside spikes and traps to kill them and loot them. Being aware of what can happen to you is part of the game. Not everyone has been purge pulled, but I’m sure that the one who did where very mad and maybe didnt even want to play anymore, and I don’t want to be in that situation, and it’s totally fair.

And since you’re the one asking for more proofs, maybe you should tell me how you got that 0.000001% number, are you taking it out of your head? Show me a video of that not happening. :crazy_face:

I call BS! Video, or it never happened!

:wink:

Is trolling really necessary?

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To be fair, some and how purges works has changed over time.

Anyway, I don’t see point in Purging Newbies… Player will do that themselves. And 3rd waves and beyond do get harder.

I remember offering advice to player who had small purges. And it was… DO NOT go full ham on them.
You do to well, harder stuff spawns in. Its easy mistake to do.
Kill off 2-3 waves of imps with such ease, then big boy shows up with npc’s. This one isn’t same as it use to be.
Now in over your head.
I remember me and a friend murdering exiles purge. Then black hand came in on 4th wave. And wiped us. there all deck in better armor, not dieing in 2-3 hits.

You can still do it now, do to well. And then sudden you go from Bats to Dragons, Spiders to Scorps(big boys) Handful of NPC’s to Flocks of them.
Sankes alone is all big ones. XD
Spiders wasn’t to bad, I think later waves was mostly few extra NPC’s, Don’t think Ih ad big ol’ hairy show up.

One of my main base is built on inner edge of no purge zone, To me… its nice to know I don’t need worry about my main home.

I have one on newbie river/desert zone on east side. razor kitchen, giant snakes. So much fun… they will waltz thru t1 and t2.
undead one I’ve gotten north of Darfari… pretty much cleaned up any of t1 stuff I had out. Pretty huge jump in difficultly.

As someone who forces purges daliy when i play, I think alot of you more experienced players are giving “new players” more credit then the deserve. That they can survive a purge.

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I think it’s completely 100% random and the only thing that influences the difficulty or really any aspect is the position or “purge zone” on the map where the purge is occurring. My own experiences seem evidence enough of that but additionally the documentation seems to support the notion as well.

You likely need to define “survive” in that sentence. It’s so easy to get stun-locked and blocked into an unmovable position that no one can survive (not die). But if survival only means your base is still standing, sure anyone with a T3 base can easily survive - even without doing anything. For like 99% of all purges on official servers all the player really needs to do is craft or obtain a repair hammer and use after the purge is finished. :stuck_out_tongue:

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I haven’t had a gorilla purge yet… What are the bosses that come with them, just silverbacks?

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Yes… Jungle…
Either gorilla, or ape, or snake so far…
Snakes have 3h boss but gorillas and apes only all the kinds of them yet super easy, annoying easy actually…
I remember @Wak4863 managed to have lemurian purge in his videos, I never got any so far. Ofcurce I always build under the pagoda area but still I would like to have just one lemurian. Maybe I have to change my building locations in jungle, If I am not mistaken @anon83039162 must have a lemurian purge.

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I’ve had a couple of Lemurian Purges on Single-Player (back when Purges had a tendency to spawn naked). My base was at L5, close to Exiles Camp 24 (used to farm there for Grrr Legbiter). Mostly that base attracted snake purges, and some starving Exiles.

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Yeah, not too long ago I had a purge at L-5 and it was WAY too easy.

One singular T3 Level 8 Archer killed pretty much all of them. I think it was called a Lizard Invasion of something like that. Mostly it was those little dumpy humanoids that die when you breath on them. But there were like 10 or so alligators as well. Finally on the last wave when everything else was dead and defeated the 3-Skull Crock showed up - so a little excitement mixed with the boredom. Each of the three waves lasted only 3 or 4 minutes and most of that time was waiting for them to spawn in and walk to the base. :stuck_out_tongue:

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