So I’m rather new and I just hit Hardened Steel Tools on a PvE server. I’m assuming that materials go up in viability as they become rarer or more convoluted to craft. With that in mind it would stand to reason that Obsidian Weapons and tools are the best craft-able tools with legendaries being the best. But with what I’ve read it would seem this assumption is incorrect but most of what I read is outdated so what I now wonder is what are the best materials for each tool? And is obsidian as useless as I’ve read?
There’s no clear answer to your question. Obsidian weapons aren’t worth it in my opinion. Obsidian tools on the other hand I feel are worth it, however a lot of what you harvest depends on your level of survival more then the tool when you get to the higher tier equipment.
Between star metal and obsidian I would suggest using what you have easier access to. Or what you enjoy farming.
As far as craftable weapons with low cost and high damage my suggestion would be serpent man weapons because they are fairly high in damage and only require iron to repair.
As far as awesome looks with high damage. Star metal wins in my book.
Legendaries are worth it if you can support repairing them. Not all legendaries will fit your play style so it can be a task to get something you like from the box. But the grind is fun.
That’s just my humble opinion I’m sure others will follow and help you get a well rounded idea of what your next step will be.
Enjoy the journey.
I hate the volcano and refuse to return to learn obsidian so I usually use star metal. The new legendary tools make them all obsolete IMO unless you fail at repair kits. Durability is an issue with all of them and repair time/hassle/cost are all subjective to the person using them
Currently, the best option is probably to farm black blood tools and a nemedian helmet. When the tool finally gets close to breaking, put on the helmet while holding the weapon and being extremely hot or extremely cold. The helmet will take no durability damage, and the tool will be repaired at the cost of nothing more than your time.
Lava does not one shot you anymore. The same with your thrall…
But still bring one with high HP. Sometimes they run in lava and they NPCs are hitting with high dmg.
In absolute terms, obsidian tools are the best craftable tools ? Yes.
But honestly if you are able to farm bosses you’ll repair your obsidian tools more often with legendary weapons repair kits than with composite obsidian… so, after last big update, you can think to skip using obsidian tools and farming directly the bosses to obtain new legendary ones.
Obsidian weapons ? They are not of any good.
Even between craftable weapons they are not the best you can have.
Sure, new craftable things may require some composite obsidian, but honestly all the work required to make the composite obsidian at the forge it’s not compensate by the power of what you make with it.
But in any case you can farm composite obsidian without accessing the forge: just farm votaries of skelos, they usually drops obsidian weapons, use a dismantling table and you’ll obtain the composite obisidian you need.
So… it’s your choice.
yeah im aware, just bad memories and im stubborn. I don’t need anything from there anymore.
I lost some legendaries and other stuff last week there, because my ISP had some problems and I lagged into lava.
Until my Internet worked again and I was there, 20mins passed…
At least my thrall spawned with 300 obsidian bars in the base.
Just dont go with your best gear into volcano. Bad things happens fast there
It’s a viable choice, I agree, but it’s a choice: for me for example, when I reached level 60, having all the feats to craft master repair kit was a waste of feats points, because materials to repair was too cheap anyway compared to all things I wanted to be able to craft (I play PvE-Conflict so I “needed” all decoration feats )
After reaching level 60, farming Unnamed City, obviously you can have all feat points you want… but even in that case you collect so many legendary kit than I choosed to have the feats for master repair kit only when I found a purge named blacksmith to produce legendary ones
I don’t get it honestly.
You can access well of skelos by any path you want, in any case you’ll need to build something because no path is completed.
And I never found one of them where AI is not bugged making your follower think is a good idea to swim to Death in the lava.
But the problem is the forge itself: there are 2 miniboss and no less than 6 fighters and 2 archers protecting it. Crafting 1k composite obsidian require at least 2 if not 3 spawns of them because the forge take forever to craft.
And you’re alone in there.
Sure, you can use gas/exploding arrows from an high point I suppose, last time I was there they not existed.
But it’s really annoying if you ask me, a lot of people do not go there for this reason.
Farming votaries of skelos to obtain weapons to dismantle is not faster, you’re right, but it’s really easier (thrall with you if you want and always you vs 1 enemy per time, not a dozen) to do, and you do it anyway as part of your hunting thralls in the volcano, so it’s not something you do only for that purpose.
But it’s a personal choice, like I said.
Anyway I think obsidian weapons should be better than they are thnking to all the work needed to obtain them compared to other weapons
I use a star metal pickaxe because it has the pick and the axe in the same tool. Less stuff eating up valuable quick slot space.
Also I’ve never made it very far into the volcano so I haven’t felt the need for obsidian tools.
6 steel bars = 1 master rep kit
6 steel bars = 6 composit obsidian bars
How much % can you repair with 6 obsidian bars?
Master rep kit is easier to make.
For efficency: Star metal pickaxe is best. (if you are lucky do get star metal)
(ignoring the new legendary tools)
Lava does not one shot you anymore. Also not your thrall.
So its kinda safe to bring one with you.
I always use the passage from Dragonmouth. Have made a maproom there and a chest where I have a heat protection armor. I just swap my cold armor there and run into the dungeon.
And with a thrall you dont have to worry about getting killed in the loading screen.
I dont want to use other ways, because you need bridges… sometimes they are kinda blocked or decayed.
And the way to Dragonmouth isnt that long. Just use the obelisk near Frost temple, go up the hills and fall/grab down the canyon infront of Dragonmouth.
Was like that for me all the time. Play since 3-4 months.
Erm… Get star metal? Uhh… Oh, yeah. Star metal. To make the pickaxe. Sure. I totally did not steal my star metal pickaxe from a dead Cimmerian person. I totally did not kill that Cimmerian person either.
Getting starmetal in solo / co-op is perfectly possible. You go to the Outcast camp to pick up the Ymir acolyte feat and spend some time finding where the climb starts trying to avoid between cornered between wolfs, sabretooth tigers and mammoths. Then once you talked to the outcast you climb the mountain to reach the spot so you can gather some blackice and ice. It takes more times when you’re in the meteor alley. Then you climb down, pass the Outcast and just after the first turn you hear a big explosion noise. And you’re prompted where you want to respawn because you just get killed by the very 1st meteorfall you witnessed !
After It’s better to use admin teleport to go there quickly to retrieve your body and gears and to use admin panel to pop some explosive to crack the meteor and harvest the starmetal. Then it’s time to to realise that the thrall you bring north with you is near where was your body, idle counting the snowflakes dancing in the northwind, totally unwounded by the meteor which killed you.
I’ve tested obsidian tools and star metal tools in single player at 2x rates (PvP server rates) with the gathering perk and there appears to be zero difference in yield.
With the enhance toolkit, I got with starmetal between 10-11 and with obsidian or black blood tools between 11-12.
Play PvE at official server. So harvest rate is normal.
When harvesting a star metal meteroid, I got 7-10 more starmetal ores with obsidian tools, compared to starmetal.
I have survival at 10 and have the witchdoctor mask. When I am farming, I equip it. Maybe I will reduce survival to 5, because of the blackblood tools. Or even 0, as I bought the shield at Bucaneers bay.
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