More hair color

So how do you explain what I mentioned above? It’s perfectly logical on how to get hair dyes for the ancient world. Just because the hyborian age doesn’t mention this, doesn’t mean it didn’t exist, nor that it’s not doable in the realm of the lore. The ancient world can and did make some dyes. It was a cultural thing and the only thing stopping certain colors was the absence of appropriate materials for a region. So I see nothing wrong with it and to chalk it up to “laser rifles” and “rainbow butt elephants with tentacles” or whatever sorta seems kinda rude to the OP. The fact of the matter is that it’s not in the books. However, consider this, the game uses modern pirates and various armors and building types that break the lore already. I suggest a way hair dyes can actually work in the hyborian age (ancient world) and it gets overlooked as lore breaking. Seems like a double standard. :thinking:

Correct. They lovely Akivasha for one.

I don’t see an issue with hair color either and if others do not like it then don’t use and I’m sure everyone’s on the game is too busy to stop and keep staring and one’s character in the game

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I have. Got a few cousins with red hair like that in fact. Also a couple of coworkers over the years. It’s not uncommon around here.

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If they’re female, I’d kindly ask you to DM me their contact info. :smirk:

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That cherry red? Nice. All we get here are the orangutan type ginger colour. Rangas they get called here.

It got quiet when logical answers were made. Maybe poor Jimbo is anxious about his Age of Gods reveal? I for one, hope that he’s correct about that. Religion needs a good revamp.

Mitra grant me patience, everyone has to be a victim these days. Here, let me quote what I actually wrote, with some added emphasis:

So no, there’s no “double standards” on my part. I’m just tired of crappy non-arguments like “just don’t use it”, “lore has already been broken”, and all the other ways of saying the same thing, which is basically “I don’t care about the setting, make the game cater to me”.

And if you’re all so butthurt about @Jimbo’s insistence that dyes for clothing and hair dyes are two very different things – which, by the way, they really are – you can explain it away with alchemy or sorcery, and maybe even get creative with the effects of that dye, instead of turning this into a “woe is me, I’m being oppressed with rudeness and double standards” show.

And your the type that ruins the fun for others

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Easy. Even if they were capable of dying their hair bright rainbow colors, that doesn’t mean that they would. In fact it would probably even be considered something that would make you look like a complete fool.

Look at any of those super fancy fashion shows those nutjob designers put on these days. Just because they can make dresses that look like random garbage put together with duct tape doesn’t mean everybody is clamoring to wear them. (And it’s not just because they’ve got a five or six digit price tag. :roll_eyes: )

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They are different, which is why I suggested a way it works. However, you’re overlooking that detail in favor of “it’s not in the stories.” Hair dyes can be made using pigments such as flowers, shells, or other minerals, then applying them to a clay or similar non-toxic substance as a vehicle for binding. Then take that and comb it through the hair. This is a logical and justifiable way to implement hair dyes that are NOT bright and obnoxious. Like you said, limitations on the types of dyes. Hyborian lore or not, they’re certainly not out of the realm of possibility for an ancient civilization and shouldn’t be compared to such. I’m not here to argue those semantics however. I’m only here to support @Marylambs suggestion in such a way that we can all get what we want: lore-friendly details while allowing for flexibility in customization… even if it’s a temporary dye like warpaints.

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Yeah, I never said bright. I was in agreement that they should be more muted and faded. However, the colors aren’t just limited to a few like blue or green or red.

I understand your frustrations… no need to lash out. He’s just passionate about the lore of the game. He’s not trying to mean. I only said “rude” because the responses they were making came off a bit harsh.

Friend…
This one has bad news for you…

There’s a story called Red Nails…
And also, Akivasha, the woman who never died, from Hour of the Dragon.

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If you can dye clothes and armors, you can dye your hair. That’s a given.
But that’s not the kind of thing I’m anxious to see implemented.

I wouldn’t suggest trying to dye your hair with cloth dyes. As others have said, historically cloth dyes have been easier to produce and use than hair dyes. Yes, you can apply all sorts of colorful crap to your hair, and the color may stick, or your hair may fall off, or you may get a serious allergic reaction, etc.

Again, as others have mentioned, the hair colors that can be achieved using medieval dyeing solutions already exist as hair color options during character creation. And you can use the Orb of Nergal to change that afterwards, so dyeing your hair already exists in the game.

What the game does not need are hair colors from Japanese cartoons. They don’t fit the tone of the setting, in my opinion.

Dude, they get corrupted to the bone with dark magic! Somehow an itch in the scalp doesn’t seem much of a problem. Besides, if they can use magic to transmorf armor, probably they could use it to change the hair color.
When you guys use rational arguments to defend that hair dyes shouldn’t be in the game, you look ridiculous, I’m sorry to say. It’s obvious the technology they have would be more than enough to make hair dyes. Those guys are alchemy experts, fhs.
Just admit you guys don’t want them, period. But don’t try to rationalize it with bs arguments, because that’s plain silly.
I don’t mind either way. It’s not a feature that gets me particularly excited.

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I don’t want them, period. And I still like to use rational arguments to support my preferences. “A wizard/alchemist did it” is a lazy explanation for everything.

You don’t have to use them. But why imposing it to others? I won’t use them either, but what do I care about how other people feel about their toon’s looks? And being alchemy experts is EXACTLY the argument why they would be able to produce hair dyes, among many others. Besides, they have colored body paintings. So much for the “YoU CoulD hAvE an AlleRgiC ReaCtiOn!” argument. :laughing:

I think this particular argument has been discussed to death in this thread (“laser rifles”), as well as others. But as you already stated that you’re not interested in rational arguments, I feel I’ve nothing left to say since irrational arguments do not please me.

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