NPC Thralls are no longer owned by me

Game mode: [Online private]
Type of issue: [Bug]
Server type: [PvP]
Region: [EU]

Several thralls after the patch are no longer owned by me, that also hit other players on our server.

Please provide a step-by-step process of how the bug can be reproduced. The more details you provide us with the easier it will be for us to find and fix the bug:

  1. Try to interact with Thrall
  2. Get message “You don’t have permission to interact with this”

not happening over official 1930. pretty sure noone is having that issue otherwise you will be having tons of reports.

your game is modded isnt it?

Sure it is.
Quite possible that some interaction with one of the mods causes this, although I am at a loss why this patch should cause this in interaction with one of the mods, and then only with some of the NPCs.

On the other hand, moving Thralls might not be what everyone does everyday, so who knows if not some are afftected?

As long as I do not know what causes it, I will consider it caused by the latest patch - and that is the official one.
That was ripped in two parts for some reason, as if one week more would make a difference.

Much chance for bugs, and even those bugs that are fixed according to patch notes are still there.

I agree with Palm, this sounds like a mod issue to me. If you are confused as to how this patch can affect mods, feast your eyes on this.

If you are wondering what this is, this is every asset that was removed, added, or edited via this patch. This is the stuff that we mod authors see in the dev kit. As you can tell, a LOT was added and edited into the latest dev kit to reflect the changes on live. That, is how this patch affects mods. HOW the bug in question happens is anybody’s guess, just like pippi causing crashing when all you do is look at a Thrall with a nameplate above it’s head. Nobody can predict what will happen when a mod using an old asset, clashes with a new one.

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Wow, that is massive. Thanks for linking that.
Well, we’ll see what mod it might be - probably.

For what it’s worth, someone on discord late last night said they weren’t running any mods and had a similar issue, though in their case I think it was only a few Thralls (I don’t remember, I haven’t slept much). If you find the same thing, it will be good to see to at least determine that a mod isn’t the issue so that it clarifies that for the dev team.

Interesting, thanks.
Its not all for us too, some have none affected by the issue, for me its about a quarter I think, others in the same range.

On my modded private server, a bunch of dancer thralls got broken. They no longer dance and can’t be interacted with. This happened once before earlier this year. It seems to have happened again to more dancers. That or I just forgot how many had been sticking around in this bugged state. Removing mods doesn’t fix the thralls. All you appear to be able to do is kill them.

I have the same problem in SP too, have lost a bunch of them

I have already reported a bug like this with dancers months ago! Funcom didn’t replied to it!

Emberlight was a recent cause to not being able to interact with Thralls. They just updated the mod, but there might be others out there causing this issue.

maybe the emberlight modders fixed it, but if you already attacked those thralls, you might need to reload an older save and then try their fix? (since if you killed them, they probably vanished too)

Yes, modders can’t recover missing items or thralls like that. The player has to revert to an older save and then use the updated emberlight to see if it addresses the problem.

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