Offcial Investigation into the massive hack, 11-22 through 11-24

@Caroll @Community @den

How’s the Investigation going so far? Is it safe to come back and play or are all the servers still wide-open?

And, in case your team of investigators hasn’t seen this:

https://old.reddit.com/r/ConanExiles/comments/1h4mn09/leak_from_hack_forums_we_are_working_on_a_feature/

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Still cheaters at official PVP 1111 so they havent done anything good yet :slight_smile:

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Minor correction to my post, “multiple teams” are investigating.

The eight year one? Try coming back in a few more years.

But more accurately, if you’re looking for a PVP servers, don’t play on the cheater servers. That’s all the FC provided PVP servers are. Its not for normal play.

What do you all expect funcom to do here? Ban one of the dozen accounts of the cheaters? When the average cheating program costs $900, the cheaters are way more invested in cheating than they are in the game itself. When you can buy alternate accounts (or change the name on console) for ~$5 each. Banning accounts becomes futile. And developing fixes around the cheating programs abilities is untenable, the cheater developers are making more off the game than Funcom is per person cheating.

Cheating requires non-cheaters to be content for the cheaters, as they are not interested in playing the game itself, but the misery of the non-cheating players. Don’t be cheater content. Find something else to play and let cheaters have each other. Ego isn’t going to help anyone here. Ego is exactly what cheaters want.

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well just talked to some friends of asia (you know a specific country), even them they dont understand why it is so slow to patch the game to this new hack.

i mean seriously this is a imminent death for all online gameplay of conan.
and no this no a short term period invasion of this hack, this is something that lot of people have access to and use, and they can go on all offciail and private servers that allow them to do whatever can do an admin…

i mean he explained that it can even change the pvp time of an official server, and so puting the windows of an european server to the timezone of a specific country in asia… and that probably what was used to wreck pve, turning on pvp mode at admin level of server.

i really hope that fc has understood what is going on… because this shit is still working

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The hack on the weekend of 11-22 was PVE and PVE-C servers. The dude had what looks like full admin access to the server – targeted at any Official with population.

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  • Diagnose the vulnerability and patch it.
  • Moderate their official servers according to the rules they published. Yes, that includes banning cheaters.
  • Remove the rules they can’t or don’t want to enforce.
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The developers of the cheats are faster. FC patches today, cheat is patched and is back to where it is. This happens every update. They’re highly motivated to update their hacks because they are hundreds of dollars per person compared to a $5 game on steam during promotions.

This happens. According to Umborls (and no one has proven he’s lied). But when you ban one of 20+ accounts, and they can buy 20 more every sale. This has no noticeable effect.

That’s just personal ego.

There’s nothing FC can do more than what they already are. So the choice is to be content for cheaters to have their way with, or find something else to do.

Yall decided to play on passively moderated servers. You’re content for cheaters to do with as they please. FC server players are just chattel. Nothing more now.

That’s Funcom’s problem.

That’s also Funcom’s problem.

No, it’s not. It’s transparency. If they can’t deal with the cheaters, they should acknowledge it and remove the expectation that they will deal with the cheaters.

That’s what you say. Unless you actually work for Funcom, you don’t know that. You don’t get to define my choices based on your opinion.

No, we’re not content. The former does not imply the latter. That’s your own unfounded assertion.

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target on any server, not only official… it s the whole online gameplay that is under threat.

Absolute nonsense.

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Yes. Reports include vulnerability of all platforms and all server types. Deletion of thralls, deletion of storage contents, and even worse stuff like changes to the player character’s attributes. They can do that to any of us, unless we’re on single-player. Then, if this newer hack is released, they claim to be able to ban a player completely.

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Just an observation. Two official servers that I play on have had massive wipes, more or less, in the last few months. One had a large number of bases admin deleted and the other basically had all personal inventory, thralls, pets and mounts deleted by everyone’s favorite ranger.

Both of those servers afterwards became beehives of activity as people rebuilt. More people online, more things going on, more chat happening, etc.

Now certainly if those things happened too often then the majority of people are going to quit but in actual practice a wipe once in a while seems to overall be a good thing.

Not that this has anything to do with the topic.

Oh… well I don’t see them making posts complaining about it.

You think that. But they don’t. What you think and feel is not what they agree with doing.

Your choice was to be cheater chattel. You exist as content to be used. And you’re simply frustrated because I am pointing that out.

Let’s look at a hypothetical, lets say you post that Funcom should do this or that every hour on the hour, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 12 months a year, for… however long those servers remain up.

Do you think you’ll see results? Or you’ll see the servers dry up, shut down without any changes? Maybe I’m cynical, but I definitely believe the latter. And I’ve believed the latter for around 8 years and haven’t been wrong in that assessment.

And yes its only ego that drives people to try for years to get futile results until the point that it doesn’t matter anymore. Not realizing that when that time comes, they won’t remembered by the subject of their complaints.

Don’t worry, I won’t tell you not do it, despite your attempt to convince me of what I can or cannot say. By all means. Continue for another decade my friend. You have that right.

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No shіt? Do you have any more obvious answers to questions no one asked you? Maybe you can get them all out of the system at once, and then let people discuss what they came here to discuss.

No, it wasn’t. I know what my choice was and you don’t. You can only try to misrepresent it as whatever allows you to drive your narrative and derail your thread. And if I’m frustrated about anything, it’s your skill at derailing threads critical of Funcom.

So, in interests of not feeding your trolling, I’ll stop rising to your bait. If you want to have the last word and expound more of your fantasies about what people here think, feel, and choose, be my guest.

I’m pretty sure everyone here is clear about what they want, and discussing your weird narratives and pushing your Funcom apologist agenda isn’t it.

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:open_mouth: some bodies learned a new word.

Maybe :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

No, I can assure you it isn’t. The list of changes made by funcom because of player demand may not be long, but there is a list.

Do not go gentle into that good night,
You know me, I’m stubborn to a fault.

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I’ve been calling these servers crap, a mistake, and a waste of time for at least the entire time you’ve chosen to play on them. But I’m the one defending FC?

Since you want to make this about me, this will be a Taemien’s opinion thread. You did that with your response to me as you always do (I’m flattered you think I can so easily manipulate you, but no, it was only a decision you made that does this, to sate your own ego). So here it goes. The decision to have the FC Provided servers was bad, horrible, worst decision ever. The decision to make more servers after launch, again horrible decision, bad mistake, and a waste of resources. The decision of the provider was also bad (though admittedly maybe one of hindsight). The decision to open more servers with Siptah was also bad, wasteful, and yet another in a line of mistakes on the topic. The half and half mergers where everyone got to play Infinity Gauntlet was a terrible horrible decision. Roll backs done anywhere beyond Day 0 was also a horrible decision.

People make choices to play on those servers. They get bent over by FC, get bent over by cheaters, and then get poked at on the forums by other users. And then do some mental gymnastics to call anyone who criticizes the whole process an apologist, white knight, a FC shill, or a myriad of other things to make themselves feel justified. You got handed a gimp suit, I didn’t make you put it on.

As for the investigation brought up by the OP. My point still stands. They will fix it too late. And within days another loophole will be found (likely already has and is waiting for the primary to be fixed). Now if you all want to stay on (or go back to the) topic and not have me live rent free in your heads, let’s discuss that. Is there any evidence that could be shown that this might not be the case because I don’t have your confidence.

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Your view is myopic at best. Consoles, for the most part, live in officials because most of us aren’t or can’t continue to throw down wads of cash to rent a server and can’t host our own (at least I believe that is still the case). We don’t get many options*. Officials are needed to gain new players into fold and if you want them to close up, then the game will die. It would be just a matter of when and so that isn’t an option unless you are suggesting the game close up and leave it to modders and fans to maintain like City of Heroes.

The argument that hackers will continue to break the game isn’t valid anymore than saying criminals will always break the law and therefore cops shouldn’t try to maintain order.

Yes we make choices to go on officials…just like you make a choice to continue playing. Does that not have some expectation of normal function? If FC has been a hot mess of updates since 2017 with game crashes etc, then are you suggesting that anyone that decides to play has chosen this experience? That their feedback is a waste of time? Because this is how you are presenting it. That we all chose to do this and therefore we shouldn’t expect anything better and not waste our time offering negative feedback on issues. You maybe putting out there a dose of realism but it’s coming off more as ‘quit complaining, you asked for it by logging in’. I can assure you with upward of 99% confidence that this mentality or culture isn’t what @AndyB or @den is wanting as they are trying to keep this game running smooth and have openly encouraged feedback of all types.

*Before you go down the road of PC games should be PC games, I would argue that the consoles have maintained this game to have the legs it does well into the 7 years life. We are valued by FC as equal shares of the game entertainment and therefore part of the family.

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Bingo! In that same vein, when people complain about laws not being upheld – or any other kind of injustice – the answer “it’s been like that for years, if you haven’t moved away then you’re content” is just as invalid.

Worse, it’s victim-blaming at its finest.

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And to make things worse @Taemien is protected by an exploit on the forums. If you set your status to private, no one can acces ignore or mute. I have messaged a moderator about it, asked for it to fixed. Even directly messaged him so he could “fix” it. But he seems to enjoy this exploit. A wonder he protects other cheaters.

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