Official Servers - What do you think?

There are tons of potential for revenue beyond BLB and BP as @erjoh and @Barnes suggested.

Not that I’d WANT to spend more money, it’s that I realize the cost of doing business.

I’m practically willing to throw it at them if they cared for the Officials more. This is for everyone who enjoys them in all modes.

I agree with you about the developer letter though, I still hate the changes. They don’t make sense for PVP and even PVEers have spoken up about it.

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You make a great point here, I’ve said the same myself and in your example regarding health bars.

I want the game to succeed. Maybe it is selfish reasons; my time with friends new and old were invaluable. The interactions I’ve had with other players, while varied, were still rich. Beautiful, unique game like no other. Not to mention me growing up on Conan because of my late father. You get the drift.

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My personal theory? The Bazaar.

Single-player you can install any mods you want. Why pay $$$ for the Bazaar?
Private servers can install and mods they want. Why pay $$$ for the Bazaar?

Official servers though? No mods. Only Bazaar.

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And Consoles don’t get access to mods afaik

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How much debt does FC have? Profit driven motivation is done when profits have been ignored and now there is significant uphill issues that have to be resolved. Especially if someone influxes a sheet ton of cash towards the endeavor and now wants it’s 20%.

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Exactly, plus…

So if we add these 2 what do we get? What @Kikigirl started to say in the very beginning.
That official servers MUST have the proper attention and be priority :man_shrugging:.
But… (sorry Kiki i will go a little off topic maybe)
We need 2 types of servers in general.
Building servers
Performance servers blitz
And for pvp the region must be locked!
In the building servers, no rules, everything free as it was! Or at least more elastic rules than the ones exist so far. (not that the builders wont eat each other, we’ve seen it happen in the past, lol)
In performance servers, building restrictions from the server environment already. Building is not allowed here! This way the players will already know that they cannot build and having a building limit (yes Kiki in these servers building limit must exist for troll protection) the possibilities for report abuse to be minimized the best possible.
For pve these servers are necessary for alternative gaming and for proving grounds there for it would be best to be in barbaric mode as well.

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:rofl: I was sooooo confused by your earlier post!!!

:100: This is probably the most valid way of looking at it.

I would say pray but Crom won’t listen. :sob:

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I just want to bring to both @Oduda and @Taemien’s attentions that there is a non-neglectable difference between the two cases.


Let’s say you trust a waiter/waitress and give them your credit card to pay for a meal.

→ First, there are safety measures into place to avoid bad scenarios, like a limit for contact-less payment, a secret code being required for other payments, an double-authentification for internet payments, an option for you to block all payments etc. etc.
→ Second, if the waitstaff does abuse your credit card, they are very likely to face severe consequences; for instance, since it is malpractice from them, they would get fired, lose their job, probably also get blacklisted from many places, and they would be considered a criminal which comes with a variety of consequences.
→ Third, if you instantly catch them doing something fishy, they subject themselves to your reaction, which can be violent for instance.


Now we have people playing a game IRL.

→ Depending on the type and format of the game, there are more or less safety measures.
→ If someone cheats, there may or may not be consequences, but usually there aren’t many because a game is mundane. (Exception when it’s high-level competition, usually with money involved)
→ If one gets caught, the reaction can happen and be pretty bad, but usually not too awful because a game is not considered as important as money for most people.


Here more specifically, we have the case of Online Gaming :slight_smile:

→ There are some anti-cheat systems in place in most games, although not all of them are reliable.
→ If someone cheats, the consequences are generally mundane, the worst being a permanent ban which can inflict Emotional Damage to someone who is deeply invested in said game.
→ If one gets caught, the distance and anonymity protects them from others’ reaction being a potential threat, so they get away with it more easily, or even enjoy this type of reaction (a troll basically).


And finally, we have Conan Exiles… :notlikethis:

→ The anti-cheat system is poor, the exploits and cheats are constantly present.
→ If someone cheats, the consequences are extremely low, if the moderation ever makes such consequences happen (on officials at least) :slight_smile: And a permanent ban is easily circumvented by buying a new account for super cheap (or so I heard) :thonk:
→ And of course, those cheaters are not subject to the threat of others’ reaction.


TLDR Conclusion Something:

• People keep one another in-check through social interactions and potential threats IRL. They behave overall decently with one another to avoid things going badly for themselves, and consequently, others.

• If people can do something “bad” that benefits them, some will do it as long as there is no punishment, no real consequences for them. This is very often the case online due to distance and anonymity, and even more in gaming.

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But what they are talking about is private server administration and the lack of trust they will play fairly and not abuse the admin status. So it’s not necessarily cheating if the admin is doing it, just abuse. However your larger point in that laws are there to protect people from theft is spot on. It is different because the law is there to back you up. Private server abuse has no protection and you are literally at the whims of the admin with the only recourse is to move to another server. I don’t have time to do all that and find a reputable server (although I think there are a few that I would trust over others but that is because I have gotten to know the admin). Officials fill the void and gets me playing immediately and mostly in a fair setting outside of the cheaters and hacks but those are actually seen as the enemy of these servers and not the admin.

Is it mostly a trust issue? Yes and so that is why I avoid it because I always question if those thralls were gotten legit or spawned in. If they just happen to got lucky and saw through my traps or went ghost mode and moved through my base prior to raiding. With that uncertainty, it stops being fun for me.

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With all do respect, i do fight for official servers and we said that this topic has nothing to do with the war between official servers and privates.
But i would beg not to throw everything in a pan, mix it and serve it as one. There are private servers i played that official servers will never reach.
The difference these players Admins created and their dedication was phenomenal. Not to speak about their patience on each complain!
Above all, we were complaining to the one that pays so we can play :man_shrugging:.
Parkurs, Arenas, Custom Dungeons, races and the list goes long.
I ONLY have to say BRAVO and thank you to these people, nothing else!

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Are you willing to test this? Shoot me a DM of a pic of the front and back of your credit card. :rofl:

We’ll see if you can trust me as much as you do the one who brings your food.

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I plays only official since 2018… damng i love officials
but…

  • performance is awful, when you play single, its almost another game (like more polished build)
  • ban meta\fake reports are plague killing it
    i start to think devs want people to leave officials for some reason?
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:100:

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Both of you come and live in my island. All the “extra” grown ups 80+ give their cards literally everywhere and they shout their pin number so the whole market knows it :rofl::rofl::rofl:.
I know that i don’t have what you have in your funcy towns, but at least we have honesty and safety!

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Yeah, and that person who uses violence against said worker will be the one whom the cops will be arresting and will be facing charges of assault. If violence is your answer, you really aught to re-think your methods of resolution.

Furthermore, are you not aware of how things like skimming (I believe that is the right word for it) is done? The person at the establishment may, or may not, even be aware that they personally are even involved. Sure, someone there is and is aware of it but the person you handed your card to might not be. Yet your information has now been transmitted to someone in another state (using the US for an example) and they rack up purchases on your card that if neither you nor your card company are being vigilant in monitoring you are now on the hook for paying for. So yeah, not everything in “the real world” is as safe as your scenarios make it seem that they are.

Wait, hold on. THERE IS AN ANTI CHEAT SYSTEM FOR CONAN EXILES???

BattlEye - “the Anti-Cheat Gold Standard” according to their own web page.

I guess in the world of online gaming, gold is worth trash.

I literally said you cannot trust those people the same due to context.

I could bother sending you this info while on my bank app blocking all payments and calling my bank to issue a new card; I am also aware that some online payments don’t require double-authentification, whatever the reason is.

You are a random stranger on the internet with distance and anonymity, the second case, the extremely non-trustworthy one… I hope you didn’t just misread or misinterpret my entire post :notlikethis:

Violence is not always physical, but I’m not getting into a debate on that, I was just exposing that there is a huge difference between IRL and online interactions :+1:

I do think officials are important but they even said that the game wasn’t developed with them in mind. I do think they need to shut down more of the unpopulated ones.

Official PvP servers should be closed. PvP needs moderation and only private servers can get that done.
I wonder how many more game breaking exploits need to be discovered before they decide to close them down.

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