Ok, I got my good xmas gift

I am finally free to give up Windows but in my Work PC.

Updated the Steam “thing” and now Conan Exiles runs smoothly in my Linux better than it did when it was windows.

I know the devs cant give any “support” when you playing in Linux, but it seems it does not falter when using Proton, and even in the Laptop it is running well in a full save with dozens of buildings and over 50 thralls out and about.

I am sure a lot of people do play it in Linux, using one of the many forms, but Proton works by just running it with steam and both will be installed and updated by the Steam library.

No all over the place wine or other internet tutorials needed.

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Have you managed to be able to connect to Battleye enabled servers with that? I’m kinda curious of the full capability of that.

You see, Windows and Linux do work on the same hardware at the same time (barebones or with VMX). There was never a need to take a side, but I’ve seen some pretty fubar come out it. I contributed code to it (not just a mod)!

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That is factually untrue. I work with both, but Windows and Linux do not work forcefully in the same hardware.
Linux can work in hardware Windows cannot. Linux have better ways to tap into hardware Windows doesnt. (i.e.: Windows Phone vs Linux Phone).
And there are many fundamental differences in low level programming on Linux and Windows. It is not because Linux and Windows can show the same screens, that they do it the same way, and are able to do it in all machines one or other does.

Not even native file systems from both are similar. Windows does use FAT like Linux does, but in order to do so, they need to “mount” it on a format they read each one their own. The only difference for the “user” is that while linux does it “in your face”, windows hide it.

Any OS can do the same things they do, at the hardware level, the way they do it is not the same, and that has implications in the things that are not strictly speaking OS, but goes for the design choices of those.

Like for example both have file managers, but the way they “manage files” is different, regardless of being “folders and files” all the same.

If the quoted was true, it would not be needed the proton or wine to make the software work.

Proton is made to create a contained space for the game to run, and as long as BattleEye runs, it runs. The problem is BattleEye wont do what is designed to do, as it wont be accessing your machine, and instead a Virtual Space. I.e.: If a person does their homework, in Linux you can do cheating that in Windows you would not be able to.
The problem is BattleEye might detect it and refuse to run claiming “you might be cheating”, so to speak, and therefore you might need to set some stuff up to trick battle eye into thinking it is doing what it is supposed to do.
I have used this to run a server, but I dont use Battle Eye on principle, because it is an invasive and “dishonest” anti cheating, as it does things it does not tell you it is doing, like invading your “privacy” by looking into the things you are running, and data you might be using in your computer.

You can find that out by using a proxy internal server (one which taps into information being exchanged by programs in your computer, rather than network traffic).

Almost all anti-cheats do that, but some others only look for what is being shared with the game you are running with it. Battle Eyes does invade other software in your machine.

Valve understands what a huge roadblock this could be. While BattlEye and the Epic-owned Easy Anti-Cheat lacked Proton support whatsoever when the Steam Deck was announced, but Valve has worked with those developers to get the technology up and running on SteamOS. At the end of January 2022, in a Steam Deck Anti-Cheat Update, Valve declared that “Our team has been working with Epic on Easy Anti-Cheat + Proton support over the last few months, and we’re happy to announce that adding Steam Deck support to your existing EAC games is now a simple process, and doesn’t require updating game binaries, SDK versions, or integration of EOS. Alongside our BattlEye updates from last year, this means that the two largest anti-cheat services are now easily supported on Proton and Steam Deck.”
( PC World )

From the docs:

What does Windows Subsystem for Linux do?

The Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) is a feature of the Windows operating system that enables you to run a Linux file system, along with Linux command-line tools and GUI apps, directly on Windows, alongside your traditional Windows desktop and apps.

Before that, there was coLinux. If you are a techie, it shows you how such a filesystem can be overlaid. From a file to an entire drive.

You see, try WSOL. I ran coLinux, but that is getting old. Wine fits right in there.

No worries. (I like XAMPP over WSOL)

If someone says something, that does not mean it is technically true other thing someone else takes from it.
Still that assertion not true.

huh ?

In another thread… mods are said to hold content. Fascinating, but I just need to visualize these threads.

The biggest difference I’ve seen with this game isn’t Windows, Linux, PS4, PS5, xbox one, xbox series S.

It’s actually been HDD vs SDD/external SSD vs m.2 SSD.

HDD is unplayable on any platform (rubberbanding, invisible enemies, assets taking an age to load, slow texture load etc)

SSD/External SSD for some reason is the best I’ve tried, almost no issues.

M.2 SSD seems to have some minor issues, I’m not sure if this is from recent big updates in-game or lack of optimization for it.

If it’s working better for you on Linux though that’s awesome. maybe there’s something to it, was there an upgrade to the type of storage drive?

PS5 PRO is out (or at least the specs are out). There is no hardrive on this model.

Dont really see it “unplayable” in HDD, but yes, SSD is a huge difference more than regular games. Some design choices in this game make that a big difference.

But I also must admit the experience playing this game in regards of performance on servers is also diametrically different from solo. Making mods that work the same way on servers and solo games is a pain.

However, as I play few games, usually Cyberpunk, Conan Exiles, and a given game I am playing at a time, those two I have always in an SSD.

However to me, Server is “unplayable” even in SSD. The experience of playing on servers is not good, and other games are often much better to play if I want a server experience. I just play on server when it is “only friends”. Offical servers ? I give wide berth.

I disagree about unplayable. I’ve been playing CE on an HDD with multiple GB of mods loaded since 2018 with the biggest issue being all the mods loading past the opening cinematic. I only replaced my second HDD for an SSD and moved CE off my boot drive because I wanted to install Cyberpunk. The biggest difference I saw with game performance was by swapping out my old GTX 745 for a GTX 1650 back in 2022.

It would be incredible to run Conan on Linux. However, I’ve given up on so many workarounds just to get a game running on Linux (always with some loss of performance or functionality). Unfortunately, I still have to clutter my hard drive with a Windows installation just to play games. But, for now, there are no alternatives. The Proton project is amazing and has come a long way, but it still can’t make Linux a gaming platform. I hope that one day I really have the option to choose which OS to run my games on.

You do have choices if you use a windows boot. See also windows subsystem for linux. (WSL)

I was under the impression that Conan did run on Linux sans BattleEye enabled servers.

If I HAVE to install Windows, I don’t have a choice. I prefer dual booting to forget that I have Windows installed when I’m not gaming.

It runs with some workarounds, always with some loss in performance or functionality. To see players’ experiences trying to run the game on Proton, just visit here: https://www.protondb.com/app/440900

Mine runs on proton the same way it runs on Windows, both in the Gaming ROG Ryzen 9 laptop and in the Ryzen 9 desktop with minimal graphical differences in terms of quality.
And needs no workaround. It is just install Steam, Proton and Conan.

The main problem is the Linux build you have, because if you are running minimal or light flavors of linux, you might lack some of the supports you need to run both Proton and Steam Correctly.

However mine is the regular stable for Ubuntu, and I installed both Steam and Proton in this Laptop after having just set up the system to work. So I had literally no more installed than updated Ubuntu 22.04 and what comes with it.

You might have some crap installed that might influence how you will have to “work around” to run it though. Just like Windows. The only difference is that Linux tells you that if you know where to look, and Windows does not. But a lot of the problems people have with the game in Windows are also derived from having crap installed that craps your game experience.

And implying that “people experience” somehow tell the actual tech side of something is at best a non sequitur. If you go to forums in which people are complaining about Linux, you might find that many people cant even install linux itself, which is literally just download a tool and answer some questions.

Virtually any piece of software has tons of complaints from people who cant run it properly.

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I’ve been using Linux for over 20 years. I know exactly how to use the system, having gone through numerous distros, and I’ve tired of running games on Linux (especially in the past). I used to run GTA San Andreas on Slackware, using Wine, back when the VGA driver had to be manually compiled for installation. That was around the same time when running native games like “Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory” filled me with hope that Linux would indeed become a viable gaming alternative. I still hope for that to happen today.

The last one I played was Mafia 3. The performance was considerably worse, and overnight the launcher stopped working. It was a simple workaround to fix it, just running the game directly from the executable without going through the launcher. But still, I got tired… Gaming is my leisure time, and I’ve grown weary of dealing with unnecessary complications.

However, it doesn’t hurt to try installing Conan on Linux (I haven’t attempted it before because online games are often the trickiest). In fact, my Conan test server runs on Linux. I’ll give it a shot and share my experience.

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I hear ya. Installing windows boot allows you to silence that step, and you won’t get the boot run over by windows. Of course, if you use a wine/proton foundation, then we are still on the same page – the boot might get overwritten by windows (esp if written originally by Linux side). I’m not debating UEFI here.

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This :point_up_2:. I play on console just for this reason. I don’t even bother to tweak, though it seems necessary and convenient to almost all the games. It’s not being lazy, it’s like you said very correctly…

My greetings to beautiful Brazil :heart:.

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