Should new map be free?

Would I rather have a free dog food sandwich or an $8 BLT?
You get what you pay for.

Should this be free? No, not really. I’m fine with giving them some cash. Whenever they get off the pot and put Season 2 in Steam, I’ll front them the money, the same as I did Season 1. I’m not a rich man, I just know how far money goes in this day and age and the money they ask for Seasons is coffee money.

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No.

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Uh, since when?

I mean the argument of OP can be paralleled to someone buying a new map then finding the “perfect build spot” but oh no someone else got there first and has built a base there… But you paid for the game how dare they? how dare they block your access to that build spot, Nevermind that the other person also paid for the game. So yes if someone foundation spams an area of the new map… guess what they paid for it too, so they paid for the right to do that, This is much more a problem with Funcoms lack of official moderation than it is a paid DLC problem.

Nearly every game like this that I have played such as ark or rust, has had players on servers that try to control parts of a map or certain resources, those are all still paid games, just because you paid for the content doesnt give you some godly right to have full access to whatever you want while playing on multiplayer servers. You can always play Solo and have a fresh unblemished map to explore, but whenever you join multiplayer servers you must understand that everyone has the same rights to the map, so first come first serve or fight them for it.

Imagine going up to a group of players who have built a massive structure in an area you want to claim and demanding the area they have built in to be yours, and when they ask why they should give it up, you state “I paid for the game” they would laugh at you man. This is really not a valid argument.

You didnt pay to have free rain over multiplayer, you paid for the map which you have full access to via solo play, and you paid for the opportunity to experience that map with others online if you wish to do so. But just like you those other players paid for the same right. If you are worried about players spamming over the new map then play on private servers where admins have rules against foundation spam and blocking. I made the move to privates a long time ago and havent looked back. I recommend to anyone looking to be free of hackers cheaters and players that use undesirable play styles, try private servers. Many mimic vanilla 100% and many have been up for years now without “disappearing” despite the arguments many have made against private servers, every argument I have seen has a private server sitting there that completely disputes their claims.

But back on topic no, if there was ever going to be an argument for the new map being free… this is definitely not it :wink:

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CE was free to some subscribers on some service or other that runs on consoles, I forget the name (so “free”, not free), but yeah. Anyway, no the map should not be free.

OP clearly has no idea what type of game this is. Fairly logical when you give someone stuff for free - surprise, surprise, they don’t value it as much.

And yes, trolls are annoying, but making the map free will do nothing to combat that problem - quite the reverse if anything.

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It might be that they got it through PlayStation Plus, when Conan Exiles was one of the monthly free games :slight_smile:

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no it shouldnt be free ( devs/designers need to be paid for work ), and it cant be an extension to the current map. if you do that, players without the new map wouldnt be able to attack a base in the new map.

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Simple (on paper, anyway) solution: Make characters only transfer naked from one map to the other on PvP servers.

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Free vs. Paid is neither here nor there, and kinda depends on the mechanics of the game map - of which, none of us, except the FunCom Devs/Peeps, can speak with any authority.

FunCom have, in my opinion, always been very detailed in letting players know what could, would, and might come (though I imagine they have learned the hard way that the players do not always fairly reward this :stuck_out_tongue: )

FunCom have stated on many occasions that there are system and performance issues expanding the current maps further. There may be gaps in the current three-region map that suggest ‘another map’ will go there, and that this ‘must be free’, but no-one has confirmed whether it is feasible or possible. If any new map was to go there, then I tend to think it should be as free as any of the current maps.

But, when the game first came out, open world games were different. Since then, with advances in technology (Unreal and the like), better world map mechanics are now more viable. I can say that, after more than 4,000 hours of play, I am certainly a lot more familiar with most of the current map than if I started playing this morning.

I will also say, (and there is nothing anyone, FunCom or otherwise, have stated to confirm any of this) that if there was some new development that made a full, open world game that for example included some randomness in the generation at game-start, that had an open-world map that was even more ‘real’ and that allowed villages, towns, dungeons, camps and communities to develop more open-ended - well, I would certainly pay for that as that would effectively be a Conan Exiles 2.0 and a complete new game.

As I said, this is all pure speculation on my part.

I love the Conan genre. I enjoy being able to have a server that other players can enjoy and interact on. I love being able to set up stuff, and have the players set up stuff that keeps the game alive and changing. read through all the excellent ideas in the ‘Wishlist’ forum FunCom are running. So many of those excellent ideas don’t seem viable using the ‘old’ tech that was about when the current version of Conan Exiles core engine was created. They could all be available in a newer version - and we all know that most games charge for a new Version of a game, don’t we? :slight_smile:

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Ark works this way, and it has like 3 additional paid maps along with 3 free maps, something like that. All of them can be transferred between and more than the fact that players can’t attack a base on a map they don’t own, but those maps offer resources and tames that can’t be obtained on the free maps. Take the snow owl for instance, it can not be acquired from the free maps, but players can tame them on paid maps and transfer them to the free maps and fight players with them there.

It may not seem fair but the advantage is less than you think, as long as things are balanced then it is no different to players who own DLC in conan that allows them to craft different weapons to those that don’t own any DLC. You can still kill those players and take those DLC weapons. Not being able to raid people on paid servers is kind of offset by the fact that they still have to transfer to your map to raid you, and when they do this anything they bring with them can be taken from them. But I agree there is an element of unfairness to it. It’s not all that drastic but it’s there. Unfortunately this is how companies market and motivate players into purchases like this. Small advantages that come from paid content is kind of a staple for games like this I’m afraid, so it wouldnt be outrageous if Funcom implement this way, they may steer clear of the whole server transfer mechanic but they may not. Only time will tell.

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What? no, why would it be free? because everybody can build wherever they want in official servers?
I know it sucks to find those servers filled with foundations, i suggest you look for a private server or make your own, even playing solo would be better for you if this is the case.

I don’t mind paying for a new map and paying for more of them to explore, i just wonder if they are going to use the same story and dungeons and just place them in different places or if its gonna be totally different ground to play, anyhow, i would pay for them.

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Considering how much work goes into a new map, I would pay for it.

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It should be paid. Any and all expansions/dlc should cost money so that we can continue to support the work that goes into fixing bugs and addressing player ENDLESS concerns and critiques.

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That’s literally pay to win.

Lets say you are playling pvp, vs 49 other people.

5 of them have the map, and live there/can go there.

Your base is there literally, 5 people out of 49 can raid you.

Unless you can’t build on said map, which is very unlikely, it would simply be a dungeon with extra setps

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If you don’t want people to build on your map, play Single Player.

If the new map is a paid DLC, then everyone else who builds on that map has paid the same price as you have, so they have an equal right to build wherever they want. If the new map is free, then everyone has an equal right to build on it, too. So whether it’s paid or not has no relevance to whether other people are going to build on it or not.

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No. It shouldn’t be free. Devs don’t work for free. You don’t get your entertainment for free. People put a lot of hours and time into this, the art, the experience, etc… they deserve to get paid for it.

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Hooray, Im glad I walked away last night and yall responded for me! I can keep babbling on about more beard styles!!

Real talk tho, im kinda over this. Its not even a debate anymore. I got both my CE copies for free. PC was a gift from someone I met over Ark and PS came with my psplus. And im still happy to buy the map, alongside the dlcs ive already purchased.

But lets go to the pvp concerns one last time. When considering game balance and mechanics I really try to be considerate to both play styles, I dont pvp and I dont feel as if my playstyle is taken into consideration by pvp players. That being said Im starting to care less and less about pvp issues, stop ■■■■■■■■ up weapons i like!!! But as for a purchased advantage, well alls fair in love and war. I dont see anyone complaining that peoples computers or internet connection be throttled to create a fair play environment. So if youre playing pvp and someone has 20 more bucks than you to buy the map, well tough cookies. Real world resources such as time and money are very much a factor in pvp, so nothing left to say there except moar beards!!

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People and claims for free stuff in games… or even free games…

(and they say the Dutch are greedy if it about money haha)

Creating games cost money:

  • Staff does not work for free
  • Software is mostly not for free
  • Hardware is not for free
  • Maintaining servers is not for free

Do I really need to expain more…? Hope not :slight_smile:

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If Funcom puts out a new map, it should be absolutely free and the existing one should be fixed. They said on several occasions that they’d only ever charge for cosmetic DLC. A map isn’t cosmetic and considering the condition this game’s been in since day one, we shouldn’t have to pay for a new one. They seem to be able to afford to give away the game for promotional purposes.

It boggles my mind how many people are okay with the idea of Funcom going back on their word on this topic. I guess integrity doesn’t mean squat to some folks.

I’m still waiting for them to fix whatever the last patch messed up so I can get to tinkering with the game again.

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If there is not money to be made by adding new lands… how likely will we get new lands?

But new lands for free will ofcourse give a boost in sales, new players may buy and play the game for it.
There might be even opportunities for new dlc’s along with new area’s.

I think new lands should be free, but are less likely to happen when they don’t find a way to make money

I’m against the idea of new maps… keep the new biomes in the Exiled lands