It needs to be reverted. Let thralls use them again.
Thralls are too weak to wield it.
Thralls do more damage with a stick then players do with legendary weapons.
That’s a joke right?
I build authority. My rhino mount can kill Red mother.
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That’s true, but nothing in this game you can have as 20 lvl follower hits as hard as you do. Secondly nothing can be as effective as you are and above all, only you respawn. So “I” can kill literally everything with a stick, my followers will only die…
Funny, seeing as authority doesn’t apply to mounts 
Well, that’s not true either Currently the cannibal elites can hit up very hard, thou they’re getting nerfed
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But funnily enough, the frenzy buff from corrupted authority does. My brother and I like to crack jokes about my horse being angry while running away.
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Not harder than me none!
Well… maybe you’re playing a different game than all of us then 
stelagel special edition
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Or maybe, you have to start playing as a regular player 
. Nothing hits harder than players m8, start playing 
Are you sure? 
Here, I’ll leave these here then…
here’s a Thugra leveled for strength… he has 34 of them plus a 10 perk with a fully buffed authority build.
Let me know when you manage to hit 1450 with a one-handed mace on ANY player build or hold a constant ~750 DPS and kill a target with 150k hp in under 4 minutes
As a comparison, here’s a player… doing the cheesy sword of crom swing, with 19 corrupted strength… borrowing the armor from the thrall with strength consumables and making sure you’re behind the target to trigger backstab too…
Oh guess what?.. if I give the thrall a 2h sword that they can use like the Annihilator… with the same swing they do 1728…
Edit: On second look, the reason I left 19 corrupted str was to still try to utilize blood-mad berserker, which I forgot in that sword of crom clip, however it turns out on its own it doesn’t actually do anything, only if you keep the regular berserker uncorrupted too.
So a slightly higher “one hit damage” build would be 14/20 corrupted in strength to get both berserker and blood mad berserker, which can do 1489 damage with the same setup and hit.
Anyway, the point stays the same… you can’t hit harder than a thrall atm, even with all the gimmicks. Now, after the Chapter 3 update where Berserkers would be the best option, you might be able to out damage them in a single hit with all of the above gimmicks… but it’s still not something that is sustainable and requires a very silly setup. Not to mention the fact that you’re using a weapon with 38 more heavy damage points (annihilator vs SoC), with the same weapon you might not even be able to do a hit as high as a berserker.
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True… Numbers… Play the game as a regular player, not testing in your single player. Summon an open purge lvl 10 and take all these thralls with you, let’s see who will survive in the end, you or them?
Nothing hits like you, nothing. Nothing is as srtong and effective as you are.
Cannibal brute is going to have a nerf because of these unrealistic gaming tests, because Cannibal brute in volcano without authority points is a weak thrall that’s going to be weaker.
Cannibal brute, tugra, Dalinsia need multiple hits from a random rng pool to create attacks, YOU CHOOSE YOUR ATTACKS. NOTHING IS STRONGER THAN YOU, NOTHING. Simple English on a simple game, geez!
What does that have to do with anything?..
You made a claim:
In English this means: Nothing can do a higher damage hit than the player…
You doubled down on it:
This has absolutely nothing to do with how effective something is… it has to do with how much damage they can do in a single hit…
Now… as a bonus I also demonstrated that keeping up with a sustained DPS of a thrall would also be impossible, you wouldn’t even come close to half of it.
But, yes, there might be encounters which you can do that your thralls cannot… simply because they’re dumb and can’t dodge… or they get stuck or some bug happens… (which can also happen to the player btw)…
But those are two completely separate things… and that will not in any way mean that you “hit harder”
Ok. Take your thrall mr numbers and do a test, even with 20 authority well trained. Any thrall!!! Just make sure that this thrall can be obtained in a normal session. Leave it with the great spider in the jungle. Let it fight and count the hits. After your thrall ends tell me how many hits your thrall made. After this take your royal… and a sword of Crom, buff your self to max strength, use sorcery gear and upgrade on strength and tell me hiw many hits it took for you but using only special!
I double down nothing. You are playing with words, know how to manipulate every conversation and bring it to your standards so others will look silly.
Let me tell you something young man, when someone is treating you with respect EVEN IF YOU ARE LESS do your self a favor and give it back. I have enough of your miss behavior all this time, i have lines!
So mr numbers, where’s your official answer?
None eh? Thought so 
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Official servers exist so players can speak in even terms .
Cannibal brute
14 hits on first spider, 12 on second
14+12=26, 26/2 = 13 hits
Dalinsia
15 hits on the first 11 on the second
15+11=26, 26:2 =13 hits
Me who hit lower than thralls 
5 hits in the first one, 5 hits in the second one, no reason for simple arithmetic
5hits to kill the same boss when thralls needed 13
Sooooo, what is it again?
Not to mention that in both fights i did less than 15 seconds yet my thralls needed more than 40.
W H O
R U L E S?
The players young man, especially the ones who play the game. So before you ever try to do word puzzles with me, think twice, because it’s clearly obvious that you know nothing of what know an learn everyday in this game.
I play, i don’t do programing, the game already have devs for it.
Farewell!
The reason I didn’t reply, is because that test is flat-out stupid and I was trying to avoid making you feel bad for suggesting it… 
Like, if you want to obtain a certain result so badly, then we could just go and take away the weapons from the thralls, no?
You’re already trying to create a “fair test” where the thralls can’t have your weapon that does 38 more raw damage… and you would do the only swing that has a massive 2.5x internal multiplier.
Then you try to compare that to a thrall, but NOT in DPS as one would expect… nope… rather in individual hits. So if the poor thrall decides to do light attacks and get in 3 of them by the time you do a single swing, that doesn’t count That’s 3 hits for him 1 for you… so your test is… slightly… “rigged”.
However, because of the current dodge mechanic, you actually CAN kill a spider boss sufficiently fast to where it’s comparable, since it only has about 5k hp… and the thrall is unreliable in very short bursts… It can actually kill it super fast, even in a single combo if all of them land properly… so ~5 seconds… if he misses an attack or doesn’t get it in one combo then it will be twice as much… so too much RNG there.
Overall it’s just a bad test, I can do it 10 times and get 10 different results and the human can only even compete because of rolling thrust, otherwise there would be nothing to even talk about as doing your 5-6 hits needed would take you much longer
On a different note though, to address the rest of your comments…
You’re acting like you’re somehow the only one in the world who can play this game… and the internal mechanics of the game don’t apply to you because you’re somehow “above them”…
Several times now you had instances where you kept claiming pure and absolute bullshit as facts…
I went along with it in a polite way and entertained your claims, even when I knew they’re incorrect from the beginning… like for example when you were claiming that your purge archer thrall has some kind of “magical secret” mechanic making it stronger and able to do more damage than your dalinsia or RHTS, when that simply wasn’t the case…
I could’ve told you then as well that you’re full of shit… instead what did I do?
I asked that you provide screenshots of your thralls… I actually spent quite a lot of time and recreated them with all of their stats and perks ingame… and tested them, recording video evidence for you…
The reason I went out of my way to do these things was because I considered you in general a nice and friendly person on the forums, so I thought it’s worth the extra effort to try and get through to you, instead of just saying you’re wrong and ignoring any rebuttals.
If anything, I should be the one upset here, because throughout all these interactions you were just being ignorant and acting all stubborn and pigheaded about it, even after seeing evidence…
Anyway, it’s whatever…
It might surprise you… but you’re not the only person on these forums who plays Conan Exiles… if you must know I have about 3 thousand hours as a player in the game too and have been playing since early access 2017…
But… like I pointed out many times to you… anecdotal “fishing stories” of your glorious deeds in the game are kind of hard to utilize as objective data to base useful information on… which is why we prefer numbers for that…
And finally no, there was nothing twisted and there was no “playing with words” happening… here’s what happened exactly… and it’s there for everyone to see.
- You made a black and white claim that “The player hits harder than any thrall”
- I posted evidence that even with the player “cheating” and utilizing the best conditions, it still doesn’t hit as hard as certain thralls atm.
- You then tried to backtrack and move the goalpost implying that you weren’t talking about damage numbers, but rather this abstract concept which we can sort of express by saying “the player is a better player than the thrall…” (like… doh… nobody was debating that… )
But sure… I’m sure everybody else here also thought that we were going to compare their idk… self-awareness… when you said “the player hits harder”…
We can tell…
Bye
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For anyone else wondering, while the test in that form is silly, I still did it, but I focused on DPS instead so it makes some sense…
With the player I did the best case scenario… even used a console command to damage myself to the point where Blood-mad berserker triggered right before the fight (I healed up by the end)
And with the thrall it’s just unpredictable as I said earlier… Most of the results were very similar to the player in DPS (around 560-ish, lowest 320) and thus similar kill time… the best one however took it out in a single combo simply due to luck, so that’s twice as fast as the player here
The HP of the thing is just too low, we’re talking a 5 second fight here so any random little factor like the thrall missing an attack or facing the wrong way has a potential to majorly change the outcome. Any higher though and the player is the one who will fall short (the dodges gradually lower your remaining stamina)
What remains certain though is that it’s going to kill it without any risk to themselves.
I think that’s enough offtopic in a sword of crom thread thou
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Meh. Me personally…mi think the SoC is all wrong. Instead of draining stamina, it gives the wielder the exact same amount of damage back at themselves. Only the strong should wield the power and Crom doesn’t give advantages and that extends to his weapons. Equal treatment to both and the strongest still stands. That is Crom.
It does though. When you are riding the rhino it’s horn attack does extra damage from what it would if it wasn’t a mount. Something about the player being on it gives it buffs it shouldn’t’ have.
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