Bloody hell, I feel old :laughing:

What I mean is that games always used to save your single-player game on your computer. Nowadays you can reinstall the game or even change computers, and you keep your single-player game, because the platform you use (e.g. Steam) uploads your single-player game to its cloud and downloads it back, but that’s a relatively new thing.

Take a game like Dragon Age: Origins. As far as I know, it doesn’t sync the saved game up to the cloud, so if you go and play it on a different computer, you’ll have to start from scratch. Would you say the essence of Dragon Age is to start from scratch?

That’s what I keep trying to explain: the game is not like that. The game offers you these choices and you can easily choose not to have your stuff destroyed. You can play with decay off, building damage off, and even purge off. The game gives you a choice. The official servers don’t.

Some people make deliberate use of those choices and expect the game to work correctly according to those choices. When it doesn’t, telling those people that they missed the point of the game is both wrong and unhelpful :slight_smile:

You and I, we play the game differently from those people, but that doesn’t mean our preferences for how to play the game are the “correct” ones :slight_smile:

Nah, I also failed to explain what I meant. I hope I did a better job now.

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Is this an out of season April fools joke? XP boosts and resource boosts? Years of gameplay on private dedicated server with my firends, thousands of hours spent building and decorating. I can spawn billion resources in a secound as admin. But that is not why myself and my friends are angry about. Its the TIME WE SPENT ON DECORATING AND BUILDING for YEARS that cannot be brought back!

Dev said on the stream himself. “Wiping servers is the fastest way to lose the community”. Well here we are! Good job!

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This right here. Maybe FC doesn"t do wipes because they know a FUBAR update will do one for them.

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Yeah at this stage we feel severely ripped off. It’s like we paid full price plus hundreds of dollars for DLC to be BETA testers. This sort of thing is expected in a BETA, not for a game that’s been released for how many years. What really tipped it over the edge for many is the absolute disregard the company has for it’s customers. The lack of communication for 7 days was the real slap in the face. It perfectly displays what they think of the player base. Disgusting.

The bad publicity that will stem from this will be far worse than a simple rollback. I noticed a lot of negative feedback about FC before trying this game many years ago, I should have listened. Now I will join that choir and ensure every time the game is mentioned anywhere I share my experience.

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And don’t forget, it is STILL ONGOING!!!

THEY HAVE YET TO FIX THE ISSUE!!!

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I hope some of you find this useful for preventing loss of all your stuff. Can also help those that can revert to a backup.

Rollback doesn’t help though. Several people confirmed that rollback doesn’t prevent the items from going poof again. Reverting the change might have but this is not a necessarily an easy task and there is probably a reason for this change.

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Most likely yes.

I do think we can agree on that the problem is not that this change needed to be done but how they did it.

A warning to all players before the update went live could have prevented most of the lose. They have all the means to make announcements on official servers. They have the forums too. And they know exactly that most of their updates break more then they fix. Why not make people aware of such changes beforehand so people can secure their bases? Does it prevent complete lose? No. But at least it can help to minimize damage.

People didn´t had to loose everything but Funcom decided to not care at all. This is not the first time we got stability issues after changing buildingpieces. They should have know that there is a big change that it goes south. And they did nothing to minimize the damage. This is lazy and arrogant behavior. They do not care in the slightest that people lost their belongings.

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I’m sorry but you’re just flat out wrong. A bug that occurs people to lose mats etc isn’t anything new. In fact it’s so common the rollback comment is nearly a meme at this point for games like Mortal Online and others. The update clearly released too early without enough testing. Admit that and rollback to pre update, should’ve been done ASAP. Keep testing the update until it’s ready then launch. Even amateur devs do this with other games because even though they’re amateur they care about the player base and game overall. FC clearly doesn’t.

You know sometimes I ask myself “How do these companies survive showing such poor support for their game/players” then I read threads like this one and see people blindly defend even the most egregious actions and it makes more sense

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We have a major bug on every update, if we follow your advice we will still be with content from 2017. If you think that anything will change, you haven’t been around long enough. Move to or start a private server, at least there you have admins to help you deal with this stuff.

P.s This wasn’t even a bug but rather unintended consequence from an intended change. The fact that Funcom never wipes the servers makes it painful and gives the illusion that everything is meant to last forever. Is it frustrating? Of course, it is but it is not going to be their first nor their last.

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[quote=“CodeMage, post:532, topic:231473”]
then get bored and let it decay and start all over again
[/quote] - fully agree with ya.

Yep. I think I am on v14.6 of my base build on Exiled Lands - though I don’t wait for Decay, but use the new build mechanic to ‘pick’ the whole damned thing up again. Also a private server so have much more opportunity to build what I want. On Siptah I lost my entire Nemedian castle/fortress build. Hundreds of hours ‘gone’. Well, after my current Exiled Lands v14.6 is done, Siptah is next. I may even just reroll my max’d level to get back all the new stuff.

@E.y - I am not saying that the glitch was a welcome base-decayer, but I do note that Booster Event for Age of War Launch Issue: July 6 - July 20 - #162 by biggcane55 refers to a Boost in store so Party!

It’s a Game. Enjoy it or not. If a player spots actual faults, search if there’s a ticket logged already and log one if not. And then wait patiently for the game company to feed back eventually. If you truly ‘hate’ any game, don’t play it. If you want to see the value for money, divide the cost of the game by the hours/minutes you have played (I am over 9k hours played so anything they release for me is effectively ‘free’).
There are a ton of games out there.

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ROFL! Can you imagine the uproar if they did do a complete Wipe each Update?
Yeah, it was not a big bug. The bug was widely reported in here and on Discord. Was it fun? No, I didn’t think so, but then I remember an Outlook update way, way back and my company couldn’t work for a day. Now That was a real issue.
I wonder how many have screamed as loud after standard Decay or a Purge have gone through fully?

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Jesus, the word gymnastics used in this post in an attempt to defend incompetence is incredible.

I can see the FC fan patrol is in full force so it’s pointless to continue the discussion. But yeah totally our fault as players for not “being around long enough” and to expect some level of professionalism from a company so large.

I’m starting to see why things haven’t improved and have stayed the same.

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Hate to break it to you but that’s a bug.

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Please stop dowgrading this bug to an unintended consequence. It was their neglect that caused this. Plain and simple. Only changing textures do not cause stabilitity issues. Changing the mesh itself does. And they should know that as developers. Its their job. So testing the changes on existing building pieces should have been the logic and mandatory consequence of this mesh change. And a company that cares would have done it.

Its not the first time this happens. That they do not care they have proofen by now.

Your so called illusion that everything is meant to last forever is another bs excuse. No game is meant to last forever. People know that. But what people expect and can expect from a still supported game that the developers do everything in their power to test updates thoroughly before they go live and proper communicate to their audience.

Would they have made an official announcement beforehand a lot of damage could have been prevented because people would have been able to prepare.

Its the same as with their stupido Tos. Instead of communicating with the player about a violation properly and giving them a chance to understand what they did wrong and do right they go full force on people until they quit the game.

I still remember a livestream where the devs swore they wanted to communicate more with the community because people got furious about the lack of communication. And look how great it has worked out after that promise.

Everyone knows that not all bugs can prevented. It’s not that most don’t understand. But the understanding ends pretty fast when players get the impression that the other side doesn´t care at all.

Best example latest two livestreams. Nicole is sitting there overwatching and reacting to the chat. There was a lot of questions about the camel asked during the both livestreams. The camel was one of the topics that popped up every few minutes. Also questions where asked about pvp. What questions did she pick up? Not one question about the camel, not one about pvp. One update later, still no buff for camels to make them a usefull carier.

This livestreams have turned into pure advertisements of their bazar and battlepass items. They only pick up questions that fit that shoe.

They do not communicate here in the forums nor do they in their livestreams. That is embarassing and it shows how little their community is worth to them.

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Yes, the Stability Loss was unintended (a bug).
Yes, the Stability Loss is regretted (by Funcom as well)
No, it was not aliens
No, Funcom are not rolling back anything (that would be INSANE)

But, Funcom have arranged the following:
https://forums.funcom.com/t/booster-event-for-age-of-war-launch-issue-july-6-july-20/233332/165

Use it or not. Play or don’t play. That’s on you.

Personally, I don’t care. Funcom stuffed up and have offered (see link above) an attempt at rectification. Players can choose to, or not to make use of it. The players on my servers continue to play. None of the other servers I play on have seen drop-offs of player numbers (increases actually).

Sheer silliness. If you want to play any game, do or do not. If you want to spend money on in-game purchases, do or do not. If you want to shave your entire body and paint it luminous green, your call.

Why can we not use (this) Forum for logging faults (via zend desk ticket), share creative builds, share ideas and suggestions, etc. If we really have vast quantities of pent up angst and emotion, well, the Exiled Lands are actually a really good avenue to release that.
Go do PvP and indulge in a Raid.
Start your own server and go do a Raid on your own terms.
Hell, get your family involved and forceable en-Thrall them.
Have fun. It’s a game.

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Lulo i not can log into the server anymor on siptha ive its not dashboarding me in the loading screen i freezing in the moment i load in. The entier age of bugs need too be rollback now :face_with_symbols_over_mouth::face_with_symbols_over_mouth::face_with_symbols_over_mouth::face_with_symbols_over_mouth::face_with_symbols_over_mouth::face_with_symbols_over_mouth:

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It would be a mess if it was at each update, because they are updating quite often in a short period of time. However, I wonder if a yearly wipe and fresh start for all servers would be such a bad thing. Something planned, and known by the community as a normal thing. When wipes are programmed in other games, I don’t remember the community being so bitter about it, they are rather expectant for the new start. But it all comes down to a matter of habit. Since Conan Exiles has never worked with wipes (I’m not talking of wipes to fix bugs), its old community would probably feel betrayed if they started to do it. But I don’t think that the new players, taught upon the purchase of the game that they should expect a yearly wipe, would mind it so much.
It’s just my opinion though.

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I agree with that.

Unfortunately(?) yes, it would be because some players starting late, etc would be discriminated against - let alone many standard players that pop on and off periodically. The Decay system is more thasn adequate - not perfect, but it works for elderly builds.

I do know Private servers do peiodic Wipes, but even there I would be required to have an aneurism - all that work adding content and suchlike. Nope. No Wipes! :slight_smile:

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