This is now officially no longer a survival game

[Ragnaguard]

@Lyle

do agree that a person would have to self-restrict in order to enjoy the early game t

Any veteran player that has done it fir some hundred times, probably likes the fact that u do not waste ur time harvesting with iron tools or fighting bosses with stone pikes

[azaroth]

i play on siptah too,well not so hard to have blood crystal on syptah too (but more time for sure), and never hunted bloody noses, i just go for golem as i know spots where they are.

and yup as someone answered there is also obvious game balance problem on siptah

[Frillen]

@SirDaveWolf

@Razor_Ray_DC

You can also kill spiders and harvest using ritual knife. You then get a sack, that when you consume, chance to get 100 x skulls. equip and place skulls on floor. Its now magi skulls that you can pick up and use to get tons of materials, and Obolus.

Yeah, that’s bug abusing though

I really hope both methods are bug abusing because it has never been easier to get 1000’s of late game resources even long before you are level 60

@SirDaveWolf

You can harvest the golems that spawn inside the Kurak Dungeon. This will give you ridiculous amounts of blood crystals which you can exchange for chests that will give you ancient obulus. You can get thousands of obulus this way.

The golems are bugged and give a lot of XP when you kill them. Just get your hand on star metal daggers and they are a piece of cake. But this is not needed. You can also buy a legendary weapon instead for 5 sorcerer kills (skulls).

In my opinion, OP is absolutely right, but it all actually started way before chapter 3, the amount of resources you could get by selling unconcious sorceres or their skulls gave you the opportunity to buy cheap resource packs for the obulus + named fighters/workers and legendary tools and weapons… Bugs aside, this should in my opinion never have been possible - The rewards are way too plentiful

[DeaconElie]

@Razor_Ray_DC

Kill spiders, skin using zath ritua knife. You get a sack, good chance you get 100 x skulls. Place skull on ground (do not drop, you must equip and place). now pick up skull, its a magi skull that you can use at trade posts for Obolus and materials. (Tons of Obolus and materials!!)

That is an exploit. Banned on the server I’m on.

@DeaconElie

On a public server not using an exploit.

ETA: I’d flag that post but apparently we are talking openly about exploits on the forum now. Guess it’s ok as long as you say it nicly.

[biggcane55]

ueah, i get the blood pick abd axe pre level 20. Then follow the rest as far as 30 blood crystals.

[SirDaveWolf]

You can obviously optimize the algorithm even more, but the basic pattern is clear. And I think most people agree that this game loop is an oversight by Funcom and their lack of testing the game properly.

[Megaton238]

Just to point out, all of this was just as easy to for a fresh character to obtain end game materials and thralls before the update, it only involved a bit of luck and/or scouting on official servers. The only difference is that it’s more deterministic now, rather than being dependent on external factors.

Back when I hated myself sufficiently to play on public servers, I’d always find a collapsing base that would firehose me with enough “stuff” that made it trivial to gear out and level to 60. And there’s always been tricks to powerleveling yourself; the only thing that’s changed has been the specific method.

Anyway, if you want that hardcore grind survival experience, you can still get that. You just need to exercise a bit of self-control.