I think many are blowing this a bit out of proportion. First thing to point out is all content in the game, and I do mean ALL content in the game is easily soloable without a thrall. Even for a new player. Case in point, about a few months ago, I had one of my friends come back to Conan Exiles for the Savage Wilds custom map.
He was able to master and easily overcome all of the vanilla content on the map. For those of you who haven’t played it, it has nearly every boss from both Exiled Lands and Siptah, as well as its own custom bosses which are much harder and have unique mechanics.
While the server is modded, the mods are all cosmetic in nature adding hair styles, faces, building pieces, etc.
He was able to do this without a thrall. Not because of any macho thing or proving a point. But because of ignorance. He didn’t know how to use one.
Next up if thralls are being nerfed, but getting their power back through an attribute. Then you can still be the mastermind with thralls doing your bidding as you always were. Since you can level two thralls at once, there’s no longer any reason to use Teimos anyway. You can simply level up two Relic Hunter Treasure Seekers. Which were better thralls anyway.
Those who use thralls for support have it better. Those who use thralls as the main focus have it better. And those who don’t use thralls kinda have it better sort of. So it doesn’t look like much to worry about.
I’m not outraged by how others play the game i am not outraged at all just annoyed by people who want to gatekeep a better experience for many other players just because they are not able or not willing to adept and act like their gameplay is dead now without even trying all the new possibilities(or old ones) or having to change their playstyle just a little while its offering a better experience for so many others.
Like Taemien said this is just spinning out out of proportion. A weak thrall isnt supposed to bring you through the dungeon with one of the hardest bosses anyways. Thralls are supposed to support you not to carry you through the game. If someone isnt able to solo arena boss at the first try, guess what? Die a bunch of times. Learn her patterns and kill her with support of your thrall. Idk where the mindset is coming from that everybody needs to be able to kill a BOSS on first try with some low crappy thrall.
So repeat after me:
Weak thralls are not SUPPOSED to get through the “harder” parts of the game without any struggles + you cant know how everything will turn out without testing it.
This.
And last but not least: It is stupid how thralls and the hp of building pieces currently are able to slow down a raid immensely IF you’re even possible to raid at all when people are online. It is almost like its encouraged to offline raid because otherwise you cant get through. There are so many tools to defend your base that online raids against people with a little bit of experience get so hard and annoying. So many bases are unraidable if someone is online and knows how to use a repair hammer, replaces pieces or shoots acid/smoke arrows at people. Good private pvp servers weaken those possibilites by nature because there are barely any real raids happening where people actually fight and raid. Ofc weakening all this means offline players are also easier to attack. Thats why im always suggesting to finally get some officials with different server settings. Cant be there for 5 hours raid time? No problem heres an official with only 2 hours. If you then still cant be there to protect your base? Well here we have 3x harvest so its easier for you to rebuild. Or their finally work on dynamic building damage and release the feature like it was planned 2 years ago.
with new attribute system you will be able to max out 3 specs without any gear requirement, if you lvl up to 60 lvl.
What does it mean?
It’s a huge buff to a player character and you will be able to max enc attribute for farming, authority for thralls dmg boost/heal on hit + 2 thralls at same time and still have enough points to max your vitality or any other stat.
I doubt we will see any new moves from existing boss npcs etc. so in general you and your playstyle will get a huge buff.
Odd questions I don’t think I should reply on those but let me give at least a little more context…
Its fine when someone wants to afk their game content, but a game is never intended to be played afk.
I don’t like afk mechanics (and too much micro management), if you need to afk in a game this means the content isn’t good enough because the players clearly doesn’t want to play it themselves.
Afking kills the social aspect of a game a large part of the playerbase plays online.
And you personally see people “AFK” a lot while their “super” thrall kills every mob in a dungeon?
I like when we discuss changes in a healthy way on these forums, but when you start judging how other people play the game based on how you “THINK” the game should be played, it takes away from the discussion, and does not add to it. That is the only point I am trying to make, thank you.
Well mate but thats the thing again. You are not supposed to do these things with a t3 exiles fighter. You’re supposed to obtain better thralls in the course of the game and do it then. The map and dungeons do not only have 1 difficulty. If you do not have a better thrall than a t3 exiles fighter yet you gonna go and use him to get the next stronger one.
Its like starting elden ring running to the strongest boss and then cry about how you’re not able to kill him. Like duh you’re not supposed to yet. Eventually your equipment and skill will be good enough to kill every boss in conan. I never heard someone say the bosses in conan are not killable especially not with good thralls and they already said that wont change. Just a bit more work for the player to actually do something.
I’ve done all of it without a thrall. In addition to the Leviathan bosses in Savage Wilds. I don’t have anything to prove to you.
And if you’re playing on official it means you have potential allies to help you. If 3.0 appears to be beyond your skills, then make friends. I don’t believe end-game balance should be tailored to those who think its too hard. You have imps, kappas, and hyenas, and many other things to fight for a challenge. Some of us seek more.
The difference is, I have to use a mod to get a greater challenge. You don’t. I would hope 3.0 would fix that. But I don’t know if it will. Since the only thing I use thralls for is carrying loot, 3.0 could make them die in one shot from a rabbit and it wouldn’t do anything for me.
It is not about me…
Its okay if you don’t agree, I’m just saying what I think and telling this was a good change.
“I AGREE with the changes they do to thralls, I THINK this is a good thing. Making the player more important, the hero of the game”
That’s ironic.
I don’t want to add a disclaimer below every comment I make because people don’t agree. If you don’t agree and feel the need to convince me to think differently explain to me why so I can understand you better instead of attacking me for my opinion.
You assume that you know how the game is “supposed” to be played and what is “not allowed” by others, and you also ASSUME that people are “gatekeeping”, a clever way to back up your “play the game like I play the game” attitude, nothing more. You bring no healthy discussion to this thread and just want to rebut others who’s opinions you dislike.
Possibly you should not open your mouth and “remove all doubt.”
I come from playing MMO’s since 2005 and I saw a trend coming up which was in the early days “botting”.
Botting is a way to progress automaticity while afk (this was because of the heavy grind most of the time).
Afking should never be a part of the game, a game is to entertain and I don’t feel anything for botting/afking (not even in grinding).
This trend should not continue on a action game like Conan with an engaging online community.
So if they trim afking possibilities I’m all behind it.
I believe PVPers prefer thralls with very high health as tool against raids, etc.
Personally, after leveling up about every named thrall in the game, I prefer Janos to Teimos, Berserkers, etc.
I like the RHTS only because they come in all flavors and are not a static type of thrall, but feel they have no attributes that give them any special headstart in the game.
Is not it mostly true though, that most of the botting done in the early days was spell casting botting, where they could write a script that lets the avatar cast a spell over and over and gain magical traction and experience?
Also, in CE, since you remain in game, it changes the botting scenario, since you risk everything you carry if your avatar dies, whereas most MMOs you just teleport immediately back to a start point?
I just do not think there is any major “botting” happening in CE, due to the fact it would be pointless, since it is so easy to level up, and the dead drops do not automatically go into your inventory.
If they are making Thralls “less important” they better get this sorcery right and give us something to spend time with. Because thralls are one of the most important aspect of this game alongside building, a lot of people love capturing thralls, myself included, and see how they turn out.
Curious about something there, are healing arrows working now? because if I remember right they were made basically useless about a year ago, meaning they heal almost nothing. Was this changed?
Sure is, but do we really need to afk content in Conan Exiles? Wouldn’t this make the content obsolete, or not fun/important enough to do yourself?
I think not, but if you think it should that’s perfectly fine, everyone has their visions of how a game should be and this is why we discus the matter!
They did an okay balance in my eyes with the authorization perk, meaning “If someone really want this play style they should invest in it”.
From what I have seen and after reading the discussions about this new feature, I would tend to agree and look forward to it actually. I personally like the fact that you can have more than one follower with this perk, but will not this actually encourage botting more?
I never said you aren’t allowed to try to fight the arena champ with a darfari fighter 3 if you want to go ahead and do so. But you think this is supposed to work yes? So basically you want to remove any grade of difficulty out of the game so you can take your fighter 3 and clear a whole dungeon with it? Yes I personally don’t think that’s what the devs aimed for otherwise it would be pointless to even have thralls and bosses with different strengths and difficulties.
I didn’t assume anything I just reacted to what the person said. He wants to keep it the way it is so HE can still kill bosses while in farming spec after farming 150k stone. But all the other people who asked for nerfed thralls well we don’t care about them do we? They would also have to fit a certain playstyle because some guys don’t want to adept even tho they get high possibilities offered which make fighting bosses even easier. Just like you’re standing up for that one guy I talked to I am standing up for a whole part of the community as well. And I’m able to express that without forcing anyone to do anything. Do what you please but don’t expect whole aspects of the game to stay as they are just because YOU don’t want a change others begged for.
A bit of a double standard here then because that’s forcing a playstyle onto someone as well.
And also don’t know what makes you think you have the right to tell anyone to keep their mouth shut in an open discussion
It still does, but when they take something away from the players they should also give something back
And that’s what they’re doing with this balancing update, now you gotta invest in it.
