Useless weapons for followers

I know Sword of Crom is useless, and another I tried once that I can’t remember. I think it was one from Warmaker.

Is there a list anywhere of which weapons to avoid giving to followers?

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Anything marked “predatory” as it doesn’t do any damage with heavy attacks, only light.

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Yep, it certainly is. It was nerfed to death by Funcom. Despite a large volume of pleas urging them not, and then to readjust is back upwards after the fact, it was of course ignored.

It was once a feisable weapon for players and thralls, but now it is trash. Years of researching lore, and lobbying by myself and the playerbase to finally get some Crom items included in the game, and now they both suck, especially the Sword of Crom. Sad-Face.

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has anybody tried to put them on thralls recently ? you might have a nice surprise :speak_no_evil: :hear_no_evil: :see_no_evil:

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Greatswords suck at the moment, period. And the Sword of Crom is now nothing more than a generic greatsword. But more to the point, I do not want its only use to be a thrall weapon. I seldom use followers. I want it to be something which is useful to players. Whether or not it comes from him, a weapon which bears mighty Croms name should embody its namesake and be a force to be reckoned with, and among the most powerful weapons in the game. Now it is just boring and mediocre trash. Another ‘brilliant’ Funcom balancing move.

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I hear you my friend , I was just saying at least now it seems that thralls will fight with it as this thread is focused on weapons for followers. don’t know if it is intended though , and I would love it to be more usefull as you have advocate for.

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Here is a list of weapons that thralls cannot use, but a list of “weapons to avoid giving to followers” would include the majority of weapons in the game.

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You can add a weapon for two hands, like Whirlwind Blades, to inefficient weapons. It is for players. The thralls will act with one hand.

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What is “useless”? The main question is the weapon a mace? This is the only weapon that gets reliable combos and therefore the escalation in damage. Anything else is just used as one hit wonders for specific aspects (2h swords are AoE, daggers to stack bleed etc)

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yeah if there’s anything he wants to rework it’s the two-handed swords , especially their animations - I would like to see less of the weird looking “golf” swings , after all it can’t be hard (or expensive) to find someone (whether in Europe or the US ) in 2025 who is into swordplay and rework the animations

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However, the problems of choosing weapons arise quite often. For example, if there is a weak steel mace and a legendary two -handed sword.

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Bows.

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The dual wield weapons.(ex. war sickle)
If followers are equipped with that weapon, they only attack once.
:roll_eyes:

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They don’t want that.
This one practices and sometimes teaches HEMA.
Fiore and Lichetenauer longsword to the specific, but also a little of George Sliver’s sword and buckler.

Historical combat would require a complete rip and rebuild.

Too much work.
Also, historical combat doesn’t match the barbaric aesthetic they are going for.
The current (dismounted) chassis is serviceable, it just needs some speed improvement and (especially) adjustment to hyper armour for some weapons.

This one would be very happy if weapons all had a functional niche at least, but as matters stand, most of the time they touch something, it seems to go farther and farther away from anything this one would want to play. So this one is very leery about suggesting any changes at all… Because the second one thinks it can’t get worse, the cosmos takes that personally.

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I found that short swords tend to be pretty handy in the hands of thralls, especially those thralls whose expertise comes with at least some aspect of agility.
For bows, I’ll set up a thrall as an elevated post archer with the best bow I can give them while also removing any melee weapon. Then set them to hold position so they don’t jump off their platform and rush to death.
That’s effective except when it comes to being a follower.
That’s when I’ll give them a short sword for a melee weapon as a backup. Still, even with that setup they seem to be a little confused when to switch between weapons. So on that note I try to adjust their attack and chase ranges to help them make the right choice given the arising situation.

For thralls and followers who have strength aspects, I favor giving them the best mace I can find or make. Thralls of course being stationed on the ground near focal points with attack and chase distances set to the same. Around a base set to a moderate distance so they don’t go too far and get themselves into dire trouble. When following, I try to always keep their attack and chase ranges to a minimum distance but not so close to me. Unfortunately, that can leave them vulnerable to ranged attacks unless their distances are set to compensate for it. It’s a tactical trade-off.

Just make sure they have the right foods and meds to heal when needed.

Having them use short sword is an advantage for them since their moves don’t involve too much of that which can leave them vulnerable to a counter attack.
That is when having two followers with you can be advantageous.

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I’m sorry. I should’ve specified what I’m wanting to know is what legendary weapons are useless for followers. Sword of Crom has it’s damage reduced to 1 when used by a follower (at least the last I knew it did). And I know from experience there was another that did that, but I can’t remember which one it was. I think it was one from Warmaker dungeon.

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Sword of Crom isn’t on that list. Did they make it useful by followers again? I don’t even recognize any of those legendaries. Are they all from Siptah? (I haven’t done too much there)

Sword of Crom used to be on that list. Yes, they made it usable to followers, but nerfed its damage so it is nothing special.

Blackheart Blade and Blackheart Hammer are learned from Warmaker’s Sanctuary, while Carnage and Destroyer are drops in Warmaker’s Sanctuary.

Headache is a Siptah weapon, and I have no idea why they restricted it from thralls.

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No need to apologize.
I wish I had better information regarding those specific weapons you’re referring to.
I’m nowhere near as informed as others here.
I was just suggesting possible alternatives that might be helpful in case you ever want to try them.
My apologies for the confusion.

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Thank you. I guess the names of legendaries don’t stick in my head. lol

And I never looked at what weapons I learned to make from Warmaker. I really only focus on getting Champion armor.