So in other words, the forum is your domain to throw a tantrum and anyone else be damned? Sorry buddy but that’s not how a PUBLIC forum works.
In your head I might be throwing a tantrum. But rest assured, that is not the case. Please refrain from calling me a buddy. As we are not. I do not know you, so please be respectful.
I use a public forum to speak up publicly about something that upsets me. Feel free to disagree with me, even publicly, but please do not tell me what I can and cannot talk about.
Yes we have already established your Karen-like tendancies. We do not need you to point it out. It’s blatantly obvious.
We have already estabishled your blatant arrogance and entitlement. We do not need you to point it out. It’s blatantly obvious.
If you find it hard to digest that I am questioning the decisions and/or actions of an organisation to which you, for one reason or another, feel attached, then please ignore me. If my involvement does disturb you it is your good right to read another article on this forum or at least ignore my contributions. I won’t mind if you do. I do mind though if you are trying to act aggressively towards me.
why are you guys asking for more details, like your lives depend on it?
I am asking for more details because the time when I can bring my server back up depends on it. That is not quite my life, agreed, but still important enough for me to bring it up at the right place.
When your meal has not been delivered 20 minutes after all the people at your table received theirs, would you not ask the waiter for details? If the waiter at the first time told you ‘Hey, that is none of your business and just between me and the chef’, what would you say?
It is not an opinion, it is A FACT. You are not entitled to know anything about this issue.
That is legally correct, I would never disagree with that. But you see, maybe the company involved (Funcom) is interested in keeping me as a customer. Therefore it is always a good idea to ask. Also: you might want to look up the meaning of the word ‘fact’, both in majuscules and minuscules, it is still just your opinion.
The only problem with the food analogy is that you paid for that food, and they are there to make you food.
In this case, you did not pay for the mod, you did not create it. Funcom and their official forum is not for the mods. It is for the game, the game you are licensing (I intentionally did not say paid for it, because a lot of people think, that if they paid for a game, it is theirs after that - it is problematic, and a lot of times not the most customer-friendly, but that’s an other topic). @obantr this praragraph is for you too.
A more fitting analogy would be something like they removed one meal from the menu because the food/health agency (I don’t know what even is their name, but I guess you know what I want to say) found out there is something wrong with it. It does not affect your health, not in the slightest, but still, got removed.
And facts are not opinios. Sometimes they can meet, but they are still not the same.
Fact: a car colored in red is a red colored car.
Opinion: I don’t like this red car.
Eu uso mod em meu servidor porém se não posso entrar por que o MOD não atualiza eu simplesmente tiro o MOD do servidor… E obrigado por fazer o MOD de mini mapa ajuda muito
Mods are not owned by you… you have ZERO rights when it comes to them.
I have never made such a claim, have I? Again: what I am demanding from FC is to communicate what they are doing and what the timeline is. This is the right of every customer. The company can decide to stay silent, they can ignore me. They can pull this mod or any other or even all of them. All of those are options that they are legally entitled to. No arguing about that. Just almost all of them would result in me, as a customer, to walk away.
I, again as a customer, could not use the product that I have purchased in the way that I intended for the whole weekend. Does this entitle me to a refund, no, clearly not. As you, rightfully pointed out, I have no legal or other right to demand anything from the game as it came out of the box.
But, I can express my disappointment about the hollow, shallow, insulting response that Funcom gave. I can express my disappointment about how poorly they are handling the situation. This is what this post is about. To say what I do not like and to say how I would like things to be handled.
This post is about me trying to find out if I still want to trust Funcom and if I still want to be their customer. I hope you can respect that.
Yes, we could have a debate about the appropriateness of my analogy now. You see, that is the problem with analogies, they are never identical to the original problem, so one will always find a spot where one can prove that they are not appropriate. Alternatively you could try to understand what I was trying to say. But you rather spend time on proving that you are ‘right’, right?
And facts are not opinios.
Exactly what I was saying.
modservers@Funcom_Community
Recomendo remover temporariamente o MOD em questão até que ele seja atualizado, assim você poderá entrar e todos poderão entrar em seu servidor eu mesmo faço isso e também recomendo criar uma página para que as pessoas que entram em seu servidor saiba o que está acontecendo
Confira como fiz abaixo, mas é apenas uma dica para não ficar totalmente OFF
While that is a good idea per se, it would result in all players and NPCs that I have created to potentially lose their transmogs and looks for good.
Thank you for trying to help anyways. Much appreciated!
Well, not directly, no, but even in this post you are bringing up that you’re a customer and you cannot use the product.
The mod has nothing to do with that… Funcom sold you a license to use their basegame… period, nothing else is included in that, the basegame is available for you to use.
Mods are completely separate user-made content, so being a customer of Funcom is really not related to that. Yes, I get it, they’re the ones who removed it so you’re blaming them and trying to make a leap and associate your game license as something that would give you a right to “meddle” in this affair, when it does not.
I wasn’t trying to be unreasonable, I never told people not to post… I merely cautioned about the attitude they bring to their posts.
A lot of people who showed up to complain actually did a massive disservice to the mod author and hurt the chances of the mod being restored, yet they don’t seem to understand this…
Let me put it bluntly: The more pressure you try to put on Funcom the higher the chances that the mod will never return.
Why? Because among other things the mod author is being investigated for harboring a toxic community…
And I’m not a rocket-scientist… but hordes of angry people showing up in a seemingly organized fashion after their mod gets removed does not provide the best look imo., which is why even Tot did the right thing and made a public post cautioning people to refrain from angry posts on the forums. But as usual, they don’t listen.
The more reasonable ones were merely trying to ask Funcom to get in contact with the mod author so they can sort this out… This has happened, so they were more than happy with it and stopped posting about it.
The sneaky “I intended” part is what’s making your statement and any claims based on it void…
This is Funcoms game, your license only grants you a right to use their game in ways THEY intended… and you can do that right now as that does not include mods which are user-created optional content without any guarantees from Funcom that they’ll be available to use with your game.
Sure… as long as you’re aware of the above that the more you push the more you’re harming your case.
And it’s also nice to remember that this is a publicly available, but privately owned space…
Sadly not even being a server admin and depending on a mod gives you a right to information on a case involving a ban.
You are a non-involved party who simply chose to use an optional third party mod that was made available at the time.
It’s a risk you take every time you decide to use a mod, it might disappear without a word out of the blue.
(On a side-note, I’ve seen plenty of servers online using that mod by downloading it from the authors discord and adding it to the modlist manually So while I’m not suggesting you do that as we don’t know how Funcom feels about this, it’s an option that some server admins decided to go with. If your urge to play the game is that pressing, you probably have that option as well)
In any case, don’t let me stop you from posting I was merely trying to explain in both threads that overly aggressive comments are hurting the entire modding community in the long run and most likely Tot’s case in the short term.
You literally make no sense, fourms are for this, you think funcom would have changed how horses do dmg in pvp if it wasnt for people coming in the fourms and complaining? Not coming here and civilly complaining, is bad for the playerbase and the devs
Why do you care? I mean, if you want to act like a petulant child and not listen to peoples advice then by all means go right ahead. Or on the other hand you could always you know, listen to what people are actually saying and learn something. If you simply wish to dismiss people being on the forum without actually addressing what they have to say then do not even bother to respond to them. OR you could you know, be constructive, be civil, bring a positive attitude, listen to what people are saying and JOIN the community instead of being openly hostile and dismissive of anyone you PERCEIVE to “be against you”.
That is quite an assumption isn’t it? If people did not have an interest in the subject, they would not have clicked on the topic now would they have? I know I would not have.
Clearly you must be new to this forum Deacon. (we all know you aren’t)
See, you just contradicted yourself there because you just told @Tephra that if they happen to have a differing opinion than you do then they “could, obviously, abstain from commenting”. In other words, if anyone disagrees with you should should just sod off and not comment in your thread because you do not want to tolerate opposing view points. Yeah… not really feeling that “free to disagree with me, even publicly” vibe there.
And I honestly do not know what reality you live in where the word “buddy” is disrespectful, but I’d rather stay out of it. So please be assured that it was by no means said in any disrespectful way.
And lastly, I never said what you cannot talk about. Did you even read anything I said there? Clearly not.
Then please point to any part where I ever once acted “entitled”. I would love to see how you can twist anything I said to justify that.
You also flat out ignored the entire POINT of my post. Which is sadly not to unexpected. By all means, I’ll copy it again. Maybe this time you will ACTUALLY READ IT
I literally don’t get (I really do as I know RP community too good) it why you all whine that you can’t play the game because of 1 mod?
They removed the mod, but the author could have got bored with Conan, or gets a heart attack, and what are you going to do then?
It’s your fault that your server relies on some mod that is out of your control…
You guys do not play Conan anyway, you just use that sandbox to play something else.
Also RPers with their few empty servers are not “the community”. Come on, let’s be real - I did not see anyone from that locked thread participate in very important threads about changes in the game as you people don’t care about Conan. As above - you only utilize the barebone to play some other game.
As for the mod author he had this coming as far as I am aware, and this time he just went too far and his mod got taken down.
Can someone close this thread full of children having tantrum?
So while I’m not suggesting you do that as we don’t know how Funcom feels about this, it’s an option that some server admins decided to go with. If your urge to play the game is that pressing, you probably have that option as well)
(we all know you aren’t)
