AI is an artificially created entity that learns and adapts to it’s environment. Whereas NPC’s are not intelligent. They will never learn from their mistakes and will only do what they are pre-programmed to do.
Not sure what you mean. I just posted what the rule is.
You can’t just make up quotes 
is that supposed to be me?
Okay, so now you’re down to pretending you don’t know that I was talking about the effect of expanded no-build zones on private servers and singleplayer games, even though I’ve explained it several times. This discussion has no point anymore.
And she also said that she continued doing it even after the first time. Go look it up.
That’s deliberate.
You are against having to follow those rules. You want the game to take that responsibility away from you. Which, you know, would be fine if it didn’t also harm other players who don’t play where you do.
And I’m really tired of repeating and explaining the same thing. You’re stooping down to gaslighting now and I’m done trying to talk to you.
Releasing personal information about a person.
And the funny thing, like I said, is that you can just find out all the information about Deacon (in this example) because he’s already posted on the forums.
In other words, if you wanted to find out (illegally) anything about anyone, you can, because we have all posted. Having Funcom post a players name does nothing illegal, you would still have to illegally obtain information, and then commit another illegal act on them (not saying you as in you, im just using it like in your example of you being the one banned and potentially seeking revenge)
It just seems like you think that if a name is posted, that every single person would be out to illegally harm them, when in clear fact, that opportunity is present right now (as youve proven) with each post we make.
So lets not pretent the world will end if Funcom were to do this - it wont.
No, now lets get into this. On one hand, Funcom cant name a player in one of their posts, because that persons personal information could be gotten illegally, simply by their name being put on the forums. On the other hand, you and I can post clearly here without fear of repercussions…because people cant get the information the same way?
So Funcom can be liable because they named someone, but you or I cant get in trouble if we name someone in the forums…the same forums Funcom can?
Im more worried about the legal trouble I would be in if my property is stolen. Trust me, worst case I go to jail if my firearms are stolen, best case is about a $10,000 fine.
So yeah, I need to protect myself against laws designed to hurt me.
Bingo!
Be happy you live in the US with rights. Not everyone does.
Read the whole comment, otherwise you are attempting to take things out of context. Like you just did.
If it happens on server A, and you play on server B, how does the base on server A affect you, your game play, or your experience? Thats the better questions to ask.
Sounds like people are paranoid that their name might appear as reporters for some unknown reason.
No, I knew that you were talking about single player and private servers. It was just that you didn’t really give an answer why it was a problem for them.
I am also pretty sure @TINK said that other than getting a suspension for land spam which could have been anywhere, that they gave no exact details of what she did wrong. So how could she have known?
No, I never said that. Although yes some changes are needed I still try to follow them. My suggestions would even supported the rules by helping to prevent them from being broken.
No, too many ‘you’s’. My proposals take the responsibility away from ‘everyone’ so that they can just log on and enjoy playing the game without the fear of losing their account to a technicality.
Yes I am. Sometimes I go a little overboard researching stuff, especially when I see players getting bullied on a private server and chatroom that I partly run. This happened a few years ago now. One of the other admins sided with the bullies and didn’t care so I looked into this. Under UK and Federal law an admin of a chatroom/forum has a duty of care to it’s users. In the worst case scenario the admin would be prosecuted and may even face jail for not protecting it’s users.
But where would their motivation to take that risk be? They would get nothing for that risk.
Of course they are. Funcom needs to verify that you purchased the game and any DLC’s for you to be able to use them. So some sort of link to where you purchased them from would have to be present. In your case a link would be present from Funcom to Steam to your bank which most likely would hold your name and address.
Also just to let you know Xbox users do not directly purchase digital copies directly from Funcom either. Purchases are made from the Microsoft store.
It’s not an entity, If NPCs had unlimited memory they’d be AI. AI is just preprogrammed responses, it just has a massive store of those responses.
Google paraphrasing.
Thing is; and I am sure you are well aware of this and your point, once people lose the anonymity of the reporting, they wont.
And that is what this name and shame is all about isn’t it? Get people scared to report some one so people can pretty well violate the TOS with out worry. I see no other reason for you to be pushing this so hard.
You know as well as I do once that reporters name is in public their fun on that server is over. They will be forced off and have to change their player name and start new on another server. If you’re not well aware of this you are being obtuse or are just naive.
It will be for the reported on that server.
Thought some one had explained the difference between voluntary and involuntary already?
There is a liability difference, but I doubt if explaining it would make it understandable.
I take it you’re not watching the news, we are losing rights at an alarming rate. Some states have gone all F word; a governmental system forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism.
No it isn’t, that is an obfuscation and has nothing to do with a compound violating the TOS. Not sure why you seem to think it is.
No one is doing this. I know some people just live for the latest conspiracy theory, but there is only a slightly higher chance someone is doing this then there is someone hacking you bank account through your forum post. I have to wonder why are you pushing this narrative so hard?
Reason has been given. and is my point. I can only assume you want to know who is reporting TOS violations so YOU can troll them on the servers. I see no other reason for you to be so desperate for funcom to name reporters.
Ok, so how do you prevent someone from gathering personal information from a forum?
We can make laws against it, we can voice our opinions against it, but how do you stop someone from wanting to break the law?
Unless there is better data encryption so people can’t so easily access information, all we can do is hope that people aren’t that evil to retaliate IRL because they got reported in a video game. It’s sad that people think that’s the correct path to choose.
And again, you just took that same risk by posting a reply to me. What’s the difference?
Oh I highly doubt Funcom can access that information through steam. I’ll add, my banking information isn’t on steam I use a PayPal account on steam. Now if Funcom can access that fact through steam (oddly enough if I’m allowed to launch the game through steam that alone should be enough for Funcom to know it’s legit) that I use a PayPal for my steam purchases AND they can go one step further by looking at my PayPal information AND they can go one ste further by seeing my personal bank information from there….
That seems like a lot of illegal things to me. There is literally zero reasons why they would ever have to go that far to confirm a purchased game. I can’t see them going that far. A confirmation from steam is enough, but since I can’t verify and don’t know for sure, I would be open to hearing exactly how much information they are allowed to get like my example above.
Maybe. But if it’s clear violations of the TOS, then the reporter should be praised for doing a good job. The community can heckle the person who got reported for whining on the forums about a ban that was justified right? Heck we already see that with a few certain people who skip all the details and tell them “lol you got what you deserved”.
No, it’s actually to disprove conspiracy theories that people server hop to feel like a Funcom Police Officer. Or to prove that people spam report to weaponize it.
I’m not the one talking extremes hoping that someone will commit crimes IRL because of this.
Looking back, I’d love to know the guy that reported my bridge and got me my 30 day ban. I’d find his base and wipe him. You know, playing the game style. But then again, I know for a fact that that player left the server long before my ban was over since the population at the end of my ban was about 2 players and they were both new to the game.
So did that person wrongly report someone? Was it for something like a skybase, or building spam, or hacks that actually did the server a service by reporting?
Or did they newly start on a server and report everything they seen, disrupting that servers community?
Actions have reactions and at the end of the day, did reporting a player to get them banned have a positive outcome? Did it positively help other players on the server or did you report a guys wheel base because it blocked a flower spawn?
Yes context can matter. The times I reported players on 6101 when Siptah was launched I didn’t care about any potential retribution from people since I knew what I reported was clear TOS violations that would benefit everyone and make the game better.
Why would someone be scared of telling the truth or reporting the truth?
Yes it was right beside legal and illegal behaviour. I guess the truth is people need to remain anonymous because they want to run around like Funcom Police and cause as much grief for players as they can.
Nothing to explain. Funcom posts a name. They are liable. You or I post the same name on the same forum, we are not liable.
The outcome is still the same that you don’t see - a person can still gain the information they want no matter who posts it and commit a crime with it. That’s not hard to understand though right?
And actually, since we’ve established that the information that someone might get from a post would come only if that person made a post. They can’t get the same information if they are merely tagged or mentioned.
Yeah, I can clearly tell you aren’t from Canada or know Canadian law - and that’s ok!
The fact you facepalmed shows me what you think of our laws and why sometimes I have the opinions I do about people taking care of things themselves.
I live in a country that will jail you if you use someone’s wrong pronouns.
You’re not suffering in the US.
It matters because why would you go to another server just to look for people to report? Why not pick a server and play on it, and if you see something there, deal with it.
You can make the claim that no one is doing this just as much as I can make the claim that people are doing it. Best part is, neither one of us can prove our positions which is clearly why I called it a conspiracy theory. All I have is the proof of what happened in my case and id say that if a new player joins a server, makes a report and is gone a couple weeks later, they never went there to play the game and have fun. They purposely go around looking to report people. Until there is a way to disprove that, I’ll stick to what I know.
Nope. I don’t troll people who are playing the game. Now, would I go raid someone for reporting a bridge I had? Yup.
Is it wrong to raid people?
Wait, is that why they removed the player names from the player list? So you couldn’t track who attacked you so you could have retribution? It all makes sense now…
To us. Zendesk is already well aware.
And there you go.
That make no difference to a vindictive person or his/her friends.
YOUR truth, not a fact.
It has nothing to do with laws and everything to do with attitude. Some people just want to hate, they don’t need an actual reason.
And many states are taking away the right to use those pronouns and jailing people for expressing them.
Why do you believe people are? Serious you keep running back to this narrative but have 0 proof of it.
Why is this conspiracy theory eating at you so badly?
None the less why don’t you get a TOS violation is a TOS violation regardless of who reports it? Why is it so difficult to get that fact through to you?
What? Retribution in game can’t happen?
If you get gabled while farming you’re no longer allowed to hunt down your killer and raid them.
In fact, no more raiding at all.
One step further, no pvp at all.
There, we agree where the game needs to be.
And I can say the same about many other peoples opinions or ideas too.
Sure I can agree to that. Heck, even in a situation where the reporters name remains anonymous, a banned player can return after their ban and scorched earth the server they played on, destroying everyone and everything in heir path. Doesn’t matter who may have ticked them off by a report, everyone pays the price. And, massive conflicts like that can lead to population decline on a server which may lead it to becoming dead. It could happen.
But by all means, someone’s stairs in a cliff is definitely worth ruining a server.
All I’m getting at is you can always think and assume the worst will happen, or you can’t. I always tend to think the worst won’t happen, and if by chance it does, deal with it when it does. I don’t like living assuming every little aspect or every 0.00001% is going to happen.
Why are you so adamant in the fact that it doesn’t? I have my example, and that’s why I go with what I do. It doesn’t eat at me, it doesn’t even bother me.
Like we agreed on, only Zendesk will know for a fact what happens, but they won’t ever reveal the answers.
Bah, I can’t quote your last facepalm.
Are you saying that raiding and pvping is trolling people? That would mean Funcom produces environments specifically for trolling/harassing people…which is a violation of TOS. Dang, entrapment at its finest!
and this is the problem with many PVP players …the inability to separate in game and out of game aspects. Your suspension had nothing to do with in game things and rests solely on your own actions. The reporter of your transgression may or may not have benefit from your removal but you want to know who they are to enact revenge…on reporting your wrong doing.
On my last server my partners left me, and I ended up with too many buildings for a solo. One of them was a fancy bridge that was a beloved server utility. I knew I faced banning for this and any other “now excessive” piece of my claims. Friends were being dropped on other servers.
By the time I got done digesting the bridge and two of my outer bases, I just said “chuck it.” And deleted the whole setup. For some players, they’ve been waiting for the shoe to drop.
Not dead. Lurking with intent to loom.
I believe it’s an important point, one of many made by TINK and others in this thread. Where do we go from here.
You just don’t get it do you? Staring you right in the face and you still can’t see it.
But not facts. And I’d bet you don’t know the difference.
When I have i ever said it doesn’t? but
Oh my plucking goat. No I’m not saying that.
Ok at this point I’m going to guess that your are at best in your very early 20’s.
That 
If some one reports you and you some how manage to find out who and “exact your revenge” ya, that is being a vindictive troll. When you get older you’ll understand that.
It 100% had to do with in game things. It was a land claim ban. There is nothing else.
And? What’s wrong with wanting revenge inside a game? Are you telling me you have never sought revenge on someone?
Ever gotten raided, looked at the event log and counter raided?
Ever been jumped while exploring and hunted the guy down?
Ever had an ally that sold you out and you went and blew up his base?
I really don’t want to call people hypocritical, but my god, don’t pee on my back and tell me it’s raining.
Players by virtue of playing this game are not inherently toxic.
Players being people does not make them inherently toxic.
The mechanisms of this game are not toxic.
This all comes down to intent and actions.
However… There are some pretty unhinged players in this game that use every single drip or morsel of information to their advantage; including personal information. To hurt others. To disadvantage them. To embarrass. To win the game and figuratively.
I do not support Funcom giving any information publicly here about individual report situations. This isn’t a gallery or a court room where public opinion can be judge and executioner.
I realize the purpose as suggested is to give an explanation and so players can learn. This can be done privately via Zendesk as it should be. We know that isn’t currently happening.
Nay on forum info. This is NOT the solution.
This is coming from someone who was harassed and stalked for upwards of 1.5 months of having given information regarding my own suspension here.
Also someone who is currently being stalked in game with (albeit very skewed) personal information being shared on an official server. While no actual threats have been voiced there’s definitely been some pretty heavy stuff “hoped”.
Yes, people want to try to police the game and remain anonymous
Next up, let’s remove the event log. No need to know who raided you because you might seek revenge, and as you just literally pointed out…
…we can’t do that. Start up a new thread with a poll to remove the event log. I’ll vote yes on it
“What I say is facts. What you say is a conspiracy.” Can be spun many ways bud. I’ve explained why I stand where I do, I have my proof. Until I see evidence to disprove it, I will have my opinions. You are free to yours as well and I won’t try to change your mind.
Then why are you arguing the my idea is wrong if you don’t hold an opposite option to it? An idea like this is one of two things - two positions. Either people server hop to report people or they don’t. My stance is I think there could be a few people that do that. You say I’m wrong, therefor your position is that people don’t do it.
Then I misinterpreted your facepalm when I said that I don’t troll people in game that o raid and pvp them.
Maybe instead of emojis a sentence would suffice. Not doing so leads to my rebuttal question.
Ahhh. Super close. Only off by a couple decades. I guess our differences lie in our upbringing’s and why I feel society is such a stain these days.
I’m sorry, but you must be incredibly new to the online world of PvP.
Are you saying you have never raided anyone who has raided you? Hunted down and killed someone who killed you in pvp? Looked at the event log to see who stole from you?
I want genuine answers to those three questions. No counter points, no emojis just Yes or no answers.
Wait----you want to know the name of the reporting player, that you already know???
And to retaliate for actually providing a legit report based on FC suspending you for the ToS infraction. That is enough to poo-poo your whole opinion on this for me.
I actually want that change. This game needs more sneak and Machiavelli that is near impossible with the event log spoon-feeding folks information that they shouldn’t be privy to.
You still aren’t getting it. Those are in game actions done and not the same as reporting people playing against the ToS. You can’t even comprehend a difference and that is the issue with PVP right now…people are just seeing the reporting as a PVP tactic, like a trebuchet.
No, I don’t know who reported me. There is no way to know unless the person actually tells you that they did.
Hopefully you don’t counter raid people who attack you in game!