WHY? Explain it to me like I'm 5!

[Nemisis]

@Oduda

Oh really? Lets see.

OP complains about massive builds with many placeables that cause lag. Therefore, they are against the ability for people to build like that, and clearly, they have exhausted all available means to deal with the issue, aka reporting. And, speaking from experience, and even more can be found on the forums, building infractions are handed out plenty. So, either the base hasnt been reported, its been reported and not acted on (unlikely) or its not breaking rules.

Using the proof that building violations are acted on rather fast, Im going to assume the base has been reported and not touched, aka, within the rules. Since that is the case, the OP is not happy with the current ability of people to build what they like within the rules (happy Deacon?) So I asked what they felt people should be allowed to build and then asked why they felt people should adhere to their way of building, since what is present is within the rules.

In replying to my questions, the OP states:

@Validusernam3

What is acceptable: all of your work tables in roughly the same building or “base” instead of one ENTIRELY SEPARATE house for each and every single work table. Who is out here using their blacksmith, running out the door, down their fake walkways, into a completely different building to get to their furnace, and then out another door, down the path, over the river and through the woods to the armorer.
Spoiler alert: they’re not. They have the tables they actually use in a main base. They just have to have these stupid roleplay “villages”

Clearly they are against peoples builds. This is where my idea comes in, in my next reply:

@Nemisis

Ok, then lets advocate for a building rule that we can only live in a 5x5x5 box with 1 station of each kind, no cosmetics or anything like that, no lighting or placeables. Lets have Funcom design the most basic functioning base, and make that a blue print you can place down, and therefor, there will be no impact on other players.

It eliminates lag, it eliminates all building infractions, and solves people problems on land claims. Its a viable idea.

To which, I get two replies:

@DeaconElie

I am so sick of your pathetic arguments.

and

@Oduda

Please explain how you can be so utterly brain dead?

So, after all that, Im not the one that came in fists swinging looking to start ■■■■ or derail ■■■■, that was clearly done by you and Deacon. Personally, I dont care, I enjoy conversing, but dont sit on your high horse and say that IM the one doing bad.

[Validusernam3]

I am convinced @Nemisis argues solely to watch himself argue.

A good half of the Conan experience is building. Prefab bases would make it a different game entirely.

I am NOT “against” player built, and creative bases. In fact, I wouldn’t play the game without it.

Now, what I am advocating for, is thoughtful and considerate building.

I am not referring to any one base with this post. I can think of a few on a couple of servers that I could name off but I’m not here to call people out. I have reported bases here and there, mostly when they are heavily problematic for more than one reason (meaning, not just for being too laggy, but if they make a necessary area unplayable, or kill important spawns, etc) and nearly every report has gotten cleared.

My original post was a question. I asked simply to be enlightened as to why people go above and beyond anything that would remotely make ANY sense.

I’m not even talking about a sort of laggy base. I’m talking about covering your entire castle’s floors with stygian carpets (yes the tiny, 1x1 ones, and I have seen this) I’m talking about the maasive, 17room and ten tower castle, which then has a 50x50 area surrounding it of just foundations covering the ground. No reason. Just they dont like grass and then all of that is surrounded by a wall, twenty high, with towers every ten, all decked out with five hundred torches. And that’s not even beginning to go into each separate mini-castle housing every altar in the game, that are on the outskirts of said castle fortress wall Minecraft terraforming with foundation situation.

Just an example.

[Pugilist]

@Kikigirl

One example is that some players actually believe they have laid claim to a server simply based on longevity.

Exactly. I have seen this for years.

My favorite occurrence was a guy popping on a server I had been on for years, building a base as close to me as possible, and the messaging me game:

“You need to tear down a lot of your base, I always build here.”

When I refused he tantrumed, reported me, , begged others to report me, and finally built a wall of about 1000 torches, for which he was banned.

[Pugilist]

@Validusernam3

I am convinced @Nemisis argues solely to watch himself argue

I find this to be probable.

[Oduda]

@Validusernam3

I am convinced @Nemisis argues solely to watch himself argue.

Oh there is no doubt, but he does it so poorly it is laughable. I mean he blatantly contradicts himself within the same thread in the same day.

[DeaconElie]

@Nemisis

OP complains about massive builds with many placeables that cause lag.

So you lost the plot on the first post.
You need to go back and reread that, you seem confused as to what the topic is.

@Nemisis

Using the proof that building violations are acted on rather fast,

What proof? Unless you are using a zendesk exploit it can take a month or longer for admin action.

@Nemisis

Im going to assume the base has been reported and not touched, aka, within the rules.

When you assume something you make an assofUandme.
And that is a rather fallacious assumption, I’m curious what logic you used to come to it?

My experience two thirds of the time funcom never investigates building violation reports.

@Nemisis

since what is present is within the rules.

Thing is you can’t believe anything else or your entire argument falls apart.
Since the build clearly lags down the console it was meant to be on it clearly violates the rules. More then likely funcom has never investigated it.

Occam’s razor is a problem-solving principle that states the simplest explanation is usually the best.

Only 1/3 of my reports ever got investigated, and you know why.
Of coarse of those investigate only 1 of 5 wasn’t a violation/didn’t get admined.
And it had nothing to do with the build site.

@Nemisis

Clearly they are against peoples builds.

OMG If that is what you came away with after reading what you quoted, you clearly fail to understand what is being posted, and your head is just filling in the parts you don’t understand.

You prove it every time you paraphrase what you THINK some one has said. You clearly do not understand what people are posting then let your biased assumptions fill in that void.

@Nemisis

It eliminates lag, it eliminates all building infractions, and solves people problems on land claims. Its a viable idea.

I’ll argue it is not at all a viable idea in Conan so much so I didn’t originally take you seriously.

@Nemisis

Personally, I dont care,

If you didn’t care you wouldn’t be responding.

@Nemisis

Stop lying. In the covid debate you said otherwise, and posted links claiming them to be proof.

Go for it.
All I ever see of CNN is clips on journalists videos. CNN is just center of the road soft paw news. Doing their best to normalize insanity, absurdity and political crime; for fear them exerting their first amendment rights might antagonize some one to arbitrarily pull their license.
But that is a plot change I’ll try to ignore.

@Nemisis

Ah, so then when I specifically dont say something, you then just keep assuming that I did. This is why I say reading is important.

Yes, reading is important. But you know what is more important? Understanding what you have read. More over if you think this is paraphrasing “so then when I specifically dont say something”, you clearly do not understand the term.

@Nemisis

It either means you dont think I live free

I don’t buy you live freely. I have doubts about the farm thing. I’ve worked agribusiness a good part of my life. Last 17 years I worked was at a grain elevator. 7 years retired and I still can not sleep past 4:30AM. Your posting times are odd for working agribusiness.

@Nemisis

Pumpkins are orange.

Only certain times of the year.

@Nemisis

Its sad you dont understand people do it.

Oh I know they do it, never said they didn’t did I.

@Nemisis

Ah, best part is? Im not the admin.

So you don’t participate in chat?
I mean if I was admin and you started this on my server

@Validusernam3

A good half of the Conan experience is building. Prefab bases would make it a different game entirely.

You all know I’d argue with god if I thought she was wrong.
Quite often I learn things, arguing stimulates my head so I’m more focused on the information. There are people on here; and I hope you know who you are, that I have argued at length with, and learned so much from. I deeply thank you all.

And some I am just amazed at the thoughts of. It’s sort of like handing an orangutan a saw and waiting to see what they do with it.

[Nemisis]

@Validusernam3

Now, what I am advocating for, is thoughtful and considerate building.

And that is precisely why I asked this question in the first place,

@Nemisis

Please explain what each individual player should be allowed to build.

Because you are against the idea that people build big massive and laggy (your experience). You dont understand why people do that.

So I countered with what you felt was acceptable, and WHY people should think your idea should be followed. There are people out there that build as they see fit (within the rules) and there are those that go too far. Why? Maybe they dont know, maybe they dont care, maybe they think Funcom will optimize (all of which Ive already talked about).

@Validusernam3

Now, what I am advocating for, is thoughtful and considerate building.

Ok, perfect. What is that exactly? And, have you thought that maybe the owners of the bases you dont like think their bases are thoughtful and considerate? Maybe they dont lag like you do, maybe they like aesthetically looking bases. Maybe theyre ok with a bit of lag when things load in, because Funcom keeps releasing such good looking cosmetic items for them to build with.

@Validusernam3

I’m talking about covering your entire castle’s floors with stygian carpets (yes the tiny, 1x1 ones, and I have seen this) I’m talking about the maasive, 17room and ten tower castle, which then has a 50x50 area surrounding it of just foundations covering the ground. No reason. Just they dont like grass and then all of that is surrounded by a wall, twenty high, with towers every ten, all decked out with five hundred torches. And that’s not even beginning to go into each separate mini-castle housing every altar in the game, that are on the outskirts of said castle fortress wall Minecraft terraforming with foundation situation.

Have you tried reporting them then? I will assume at this point, youre referring to PvE servers (I dont think its been stated anywhere yet) Funcom acts on building infractions regularily, and, like I said above the base has been reported and no action has been taken (means its within rules), its been reported and no action yet (if some bases have been there years, then reports have been looked at and dealt with, meaning theyre within rules) or they havent been reported.

@Validusernam3

I am convinced @Nemisis argues solely to watch himself argue.

And this ^^, yeah, take the two people trying to ■■■■ all over me and just ignore the conversations Im having with them. They hate me like God hates the Devil, and use that to go off topic on things that have already been hashed out. I aint here to start arguments…or if you think that, then everyone on the forums is here for that.

[Nemisis]

You also find that to be wrong, but thats ok.

[Nemisis]

@Oduda

The OP is complaining about TYPES of bases. Not a SPECIFIC base.

The end result is precisely the same. Report them or destroy them, or move along. Thats the options currently available. Until Funcom changes something, people will forever build the same way people have for the last 7 years, some will be fine, some will break rules. It will never change.

I did provide one way for that to change, oddly enough, no one wanted to talk about that.

@Oduda

Now, where in any of this did you get the delusions that @Validusernam3 reported this “ONE BASE” you seem to think they are complaining about?

When did I say it was in reference to one base in talking with him? I didnt, its the mindset of people who build like that, and the only fix is to report them currently. My idea of predesigned blueprints will solve the issue of overbuilding laggy villages with walls.

@Oduda

So speaking from experience, when you clearly have NO FVCKING IDEA WHAT THE FVCK YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, IT IS GENERALLY A GOOD IDEA TO SHUT THE FVCK UP!

Feel free to re read that in front of a mirror. This topic didnt go way off into left field until you opened your mouth.

@Oduda

Again, you are still under the faulty notion that the OP is talking about A SINGULAR BASE,

And yet, that logic is applied to every single base you come across. Doesnt matter if 10 people build 10 bases like that, or if one person builds 10 bases like that. What you do as a player is exactly the same. How do we fix it? Impossible in the current state.

@Oduda

You would also understand that the OP is ATTEMPTING TO UNDERSTAND WHY people build this way,

@Nemisis

OP complains about massive builds with many placeables that cause lag. Therefore, they are against the ability for people to build like that,

@Nemisis

. Id say people build that aesthetically for people to see and admire. Its far more then Id ever do, I build boxes, or in Conan, it was in caves, to reduce attack points. But thats me, and the next guy builds for their reason, and so on.

@Nemisis

Why not stop when performance issues arise? Good question, and one that can only be answered by people who build like that. One could guess that they hope funcom optim

@Nemisis

Thats what I suggested in Conan, to reduce unnecessary stations, placeables and lighting. And it would help. But the trade off is the lost creativity.

@Nemisis

Consoles have it far worse, especially older gen ones due to hardware, same as older pcs vs newer pcs. Since its about the consoles, which are behind pcs, its not so much build philosophy, we need to talk about limits, due to hardware.

So, an idea is pre built bases.

@Nemisis

…Yes it is. A big base, with many thralls and placeables. Someone built that because they can and they wanted to. Valid is upset about the result.

@Nemisis

Nope, I came in with an idea, or suggestion of how to eliminate building issues on consoles, since the game will never be properly maintained as it should be (optimized).

@Nemisis

Valid comes in and isnt happy with the fact that we can build as we see fit, so I ask him for an alternative and why people should follow his idea.

@Nemisis

We have the rules we do, and the ability to build as we see fit. Validusernam3 doesnt like the builds that people make. Validusernam3 doenst like the current situations created by the rules we have and the fact that players have the ability to build what they like.

So I asked if predesigned bases would be a valid option, since it allows for bases to be built that are neither against any rules, or overloaded with cosmetics and placeables or stations (all things he complained about).

@Nemisis

First, it does make you wonder how the owners of the base manage to play when your all on the same hardware. Maybe they are just refreshers, which isnt against the rules, however if the base causes everyone to crash, and not just you, then report it. Thats what its for. And if it violates the rules, it will be deleted. The fact that people have had issues for the years you say that base has been there, and the fact that it hasnt been wiped, means its not violating the rules, or no ones reporting it.

@Nemisis

And, while not an issue solely console players face, its one that affects them more. So, why not make it so that no one faces lag, by having predesigned bases? If it helps the game and players by not lagging everything out, isnt that a good thing?

Yeah, clearly I have no idea what the OP is talking about.

@Oduda

Yes, you clearly did! But asking your inane questions which had no basis in reality and anyone capable of reading, at all, would know were intended to do nothing cause stir shyte and derail the thread

And you say I have reading comprehension issues. Its clear to me at this point, you are very similar to Deacon and do not read what I type. Ive already explained what my first replies to the OP were, (PS they were on topic) and provided an idea that would solve the issue.

What did you do?

@Oduda

would know were intended to do nothing cause stir shyte and derail the thread

You contributed nothing but insults to me, and derailed the topic. What was that thing I keep saying? If you dont like the topic or what people say, dont click on it? You chose to reply, engage and derail because you have beef with me. Enjoy being what you accuse others of.

@Oduda

So please pull your head out of your arse for once in your life and admit when you are wrong. It ain’t that hard.

I admit Im wrong when its needed, and Ive done it before. I wont say that here, because on this thread, Im not wrong.

[Oduda]

@Nemisis

Feel free to re read that in front of a mirror. This topic didnt go way off into left field until you opened your mouth.

Says the pot calling the kettle black. Just because you have no concept of how to read and cannot admit when you are wrong does not mean you can project your failings onto others. The world does not work that way no matter how much you wish that it did.

In all honesty, you make yourself look more and more idiotic every time you spew your ignorance onto the forum. Do yourself a favor:

@Nemisis

Yeah, clearly I have no idea what the OP is talking about.

That’s funny, the OP seems to think I know EXACTLY what they are talking about. Conversely they have made it clear exactly what they think of you:

I am convinced @Nemisis argues solely to watch himself argue

Living in your own delusions much?

@Nemisis

And you say I have reading comprehension issues.

Because it is a statement of fact which is backed up by a multitude of examples.

@Nemisis

I admit Im wrong when its needed, and Ive done it before. I wont say that here, because on this thread, Im not wrong.

I’ve never seen you do it even when the facts have been shoved in your face repeatedly by multiple people. You can lie all you want but the facts are what the facts are. You do not ever admit when you are wrong, you lie consistently and repeatedly and you only ever join threads with the intent to derail them and stir shyte. It is your MO. Your entire history proves it.

[Oduda]

@Nemisis

It was on point and accurate. Thanks for the derail.

Except for when you completely took it off topic by addressing things that never existed, asked questions based on assumptions that were fallacious and you KNEW were bogus (at best), because you had only ill intent when you made your initial post. Sorry but no matter how much you want to attempt to twist reality it is still reality and you are still COMPLETELY FULL OF SHYTE

@Nemisis

Yup and again , look in the mirror.

Yeah, this is the entity of your argument:

Good one!

[DeaconElie]

@Nemisis

Nope. Op wants to know why people build laggy monstrosities. Break that down, and what is the core issue? Laggy monstrocities.

No it isn’t. That is the part you complete fail to comprehend.

@Nemisis

Read what I typed, because I already explained.

But you didn’t.

@Nemisis

Its been reported and no action - unlikely, since Funcom acts on building infractions -

But it doesn’t that is the part you don’t get.

@Nemisis

What proof do you have that it wasnt investigated after years of being there?

The fact that it is still there, and clearly a violation.

@Nemisis

So the quote is about a full scale village, with many buildings and many stations and placeables that arent needed in their opinion, to which my reply is they are against how people build.

Wrong, and that is the part you don’t get.

@Nemisis

Aww, so you guys actually care about me?

I said before we feel sympathy for you, like a sad lost puppy.
We worry who is taking advantage of your poor education and gullibility.

@Nemisis

I live freely.

No you don’t, you live under some ones thumb.
You’ve made that abundantly clear.

@Nemisis

Thats fine,

I can step out my front door and take pictures of farmland too, does not mean I live there.

What sort of freaked out farm does your family own and let you play around at? Those are not working hours for any farmer I have ever know in 60 years. My uncle ran a dairy. My neighbor works at a cattle ranch. I know poultry farmers and have friends that work at hog farms. None of them sleep past 4AM. They have all the feeding done before your butt gets out of bed.

To me those sound like the owners simple sons hours so he feels like he contributing.

@Nemisis

But if peoples free will to build (within rules) affects performance,

But if it’s effects performance on a console it becomes a ToS violation, what part of that is so hard for you to comprehend?

@Nemisis

Whats one more change to actually improve performance and playes gaming experience?

How about people just follow rules? That solves the issue with out writing new code.

@Oduda

In all honesty, you make yourself look more and more idiotic every time you spew your ignorance onto the forum.

@Oduda

statement of fact which is backed up by a multitude of examples.

@Oduda

@Nemisis

And you say I have reading comprehension issues.

Because it is a statement of fact which is backed up by a multitude of examples.

@Nemisis

Mmhmm. Me asking the OP what they would change to prevent their issue and why people should agree with it, and then proving an idea that would solve it is DEFINATELY throwing a topic off course.

Because that isn’t the topic, oh for the love of Mike.
The topic is

WHAT MOTIVATES PEOPLE TO BUILD LIKE THAT

Do you understand now?

@Nemisis

It was on point and accurate.

No it wasn’t, it was way off and everyone knows it but YOU.

@Nemisis

Yup and again , look in the mirror.

YOU are the only one in this discord that can not paraphrase what people are saying. You always get it wrong, PROOF you have reading comprehension issues.

@Nemisis

Thats because you dont read what I type.

And you don’t understand what we are writing. Just because you read the words does not mean you understand the concepts and you prove it in your paraphrasing.

@Nemisis

“Why do people build like this?”

That wasn’t the OP question. Once again you’re paraphrasing proves you do not understand what the OP posted. And you just can not see why can you?

@Nemisis

@Oduda

asked questions based on assumptions that were fallacious and you KNEW were bogus

Lie harder.

Oh I don’t think they are lying I think they are wrong in assuming you know your arguments were fallacious. I think you honestly do not know.

And here is another issue with you, an assumption is not a lie not matter how close to fact it is.

@Nemisis

mmmmmkay?

Sorry, not something you can pull off, and I guarantee you have no clue why.

[Lucidique]

Urgh, opens thread to read new posts and see if there’s anything constructive added to the conversation. Nope, it’s just Nemisis arguing and ruining another thread again. Please stay on topic or don’t post. Otherwise, I’ll start flagging.

[Oduda]

@DeaconElie

Oh I don’t think they are lying I think they are wrong in assuming you know your arguments were fallacious. I think you honestly do not know.

You give them too much credit here. They are, and have always been, a bad actor. So I fully believe that they knowingly used fallacious claims with full intent. However, I am willing to concede that it is in fact possible that they may have simply done so out of shear incompetence.

[DeaconElie]

@Nemisis

See it?

I see the actual point still eludes you.
That is A point, but it is not THE point.

@Nemisis

I totally believe that. Totally.

You have to, you’re mind fails to comprehend any other explanation.
Even though there is a far more logical one, but accepting that one would mean you were wrong there for would never, could never acknowledge it.

@Nemisis

authoritarian rule of a minority far left liberal party,

Google “contradiction in terms”. I know you fail to comprehend but posting something like that is proof you have no real understanding of the terms used.

@Nemisis

I mean you can clearly see I took the picture from inside my house, across my yard into my cattle corrals.

And I can take a picture of an empty bean field from my front porch.

@Nemisis

There is no wrong way to work on a farm,

@Nemisis

You function on 3-4 hours of sleep every single day?

Yes.

@Nemisis

since Im betting you live in a more warm climate then I do, when its dark and -40 at 6am,

My uncle Pete’s dairy was in upstate NY. He was up at 3AM, milking cows by 4:30, and getting the morning news paper delivered at 5:30. By 7AM he was reading the paper and in to his second pot of coffee. 365.

@Nemisis

Meh, you could say that, but its wrong, since I own my farm. I could also say that people who get up at 4 and in bed at 9pm are old farts who cant work in the dark.

You do get this is on line right? I have absolutely no reason to believe anything you say. But when you say something that sounds way the hell wrong after 60 years of rural living, I have to point it out.

Like it not being dark at 4AM

@Nemisis

Its not hard to read, I encourage you to try.

Oh my lord, you are just so clueless. Once again we are at the point of me trying to explain red to a blind man.

@Nemisis

Like I said, what happens when bases fall within the ToS?

If it’s on a server for consoles, it lagging console makes it a ToS violation.

PERIOD!

For the love of Mike why do you not get that? Why is that simple fact so far out side your comprehension?

@Nemisis

Which Ive answered,

Where?

@Nemisis

Well, no because you jumped straight to insults

Oh hun, those weren’t insults, those were facts.

@Nemisis

Yeah dude, why not call out the people who ran this thread into the ground?

@Nemisis

@Nemisis

“Your idea of base blueprints wont work because of XXXXX, and doesnt solve the reason why people build the laggy messes they do”

You still don’t get that is off topic.
Fascinating.

@Nemisis

Know what that is? Narcissism .

Ahh, tell me you don’t know what narcissism is what out saying it.

[jmk1999]

I’ve noticed it typically the same people that argue in every thread these days… and it’s NOT just nemesis. Some people just love to argue, whether they’re right or wrong, or somewhere in between…

[Nemisis]

@DeaconElie

That is A point, but it is not THE point.

Yes, and the “A” question is a direct result of “B” event. Stop or change the event and “A” is no longer relevant. “A” cannot ever be changed without changing “B” first.

@DeaconElie

Google “contradiction in terms”.

Ever seen a minority government covered in so many scandals, unbalanced budgets, illegal use of war time powers, removal of rights, and using any possible tool to get their way?

Authoritarian use of power by a far left government.

@DeaconElie

And I can take a picture of an empty bean field from my front porch.

Does this mean that you dont believe anything anyone says, or anything you say, claim or try to prove is all fake and lies?

@DeaconElie

For the love of god dude, read the whole sentence. “As long as the work gets done”

@DeaconElie

My uncle Pete’s dairy was in upstate NY. He was up at 3AM, milking cows by 4:30, and getting the morning news paper delivered at 5:30. By 7AM he was reading the paper and in to his second pot of coffee. 365.

Yup, and he likely milked again at 430 pm too right? When did he go to sleep? 1am? or 8pm? His schedule is not wrong at all. Thats what he chose, and was likely successful right? Does a guy who milks at 8am and 8pm do it wrong?

@DeaconElie

You do get this is on line right? I have absolutely no reason to believe anything you say.

Perfect, that answers my question above, and I hope you hold this true to every single discussion here on the forums in the future.

Everyone is lying.

@DeaconElie

But when you say something that is way the hell wrong with 60 years of rural living, I have to point it out.

Wrong how? Do I do things the way they did 60 years ago? Nope, Id like to see a farmer from 1960 feed 150 cows in 40 minutes, having half that time for mixing feed. Id like to see that farmer in 1960 plant crops at a rate of 32 acres an hour, using a 61 foot air seeder.

You realize things change over time right? You realize that there are millions of farms in the world right? You realize, that if a farmer has been farming, growing, and expanding over 20 years, they must be making some right decisions right?

@DeaconElie

If it’s on a server for consoles, it lagging console makes it a ToS violation.

PERIOD!

When did I ever say it didnt? If its an issue, report it. 5 years later, and its still there means two things, Funcom didnt look at it or they did and its not breaking rules. Ive already said how building infractions are looked at quite a bit, so I dont buy it that it hasnt been deleted because its a violation. Its either not reported or not a violation.

@DeaconElie

Where?

@Nemisis

Id say people build that aesthetically for people to see and admire

@Nemisis

. Why? Maybe they dont know, maybe they dont care, maybe they think Funcom will optimize

@Nemisis

Maybe they dont lag like you do, maybe they like aesthetically looking bases. Maybe theyre ok with a bit of lag when things load in, because Funcom keeps releasing such good looking cosmetic items for them to build with

@Nemisis

Someone built that because they can and they wanted to

Seems like I did go over various reasons, although Id have to say the most likely answer, is because they can. There is literally nothing game preventing you from building like that. The reporting system is the only tool people have, but by then, damage done.

How can this be solved?

@DeaconElie

You still don’t get that is off topic.
Fascinating.

1. Issue mentioned.
2. Cause of issue is either “people” or “game mechanics”
3. Ask for suggestion on how to change the only thing you can, “game mechanics”
4. Ask why people would should like that change
5. Offer idea that will fix the issue

And you think #5 is off topic, but saying this:

@DeaconElie

Yes because if we can’t have a free for all lets just stand here.
I am so sick of your pathetic arguments.

isnt off topic, followed by your many replies and questions which have zero to do with the topic. But yes, by all means, my list above is totally off course.

@DeaconElie

Ahh, tell me you don’t know what narcissism is what out saying it.

“Be critical of and look down on people they feel are not important.”
“Insist on having the best of everything — for instance, the best car or office.” (or always being right and never wrong)
“React with rage or contempt and try to belittle other people to make themselves appear superior.”

The shoe fits, since Oduda claims there could be many many reasons why they think I am someone Im not, instead of the actual answer, they are wrong.

Narcissistic behaviour.

[Validusernam3]

@Oduda has nailed exactly what I’m trying to convey, several times. Thank you.

@Nemisis I need to make some things abundantly clear to save you more repetition:

1. There IS NO ONE BASE or even specific bases at all that I am “talking about” or that I “reported and they weren’t wiped” and all that nonsense. My post, my question, is just a general observation and an attempt to understand why.

2. Where have I asked for, or even implied, that I’m looking for a “solution”? I’ve seen (and been part of) the endless discussions on building rules, suggestions for hard piece limits etc. This is not the goal. The goal was simply to ask “why are people like this?”

Your original questions are based on assuming I’m here to debate building rules or solve “a problem” but the fact is these people will always do what they do I’m just asking why for the sake of discussion and one molecule of understanding lol

[Dzonatas]

@Nemisis

Narcissistic behaviour.

Once that is reviewed, we’ll call it The Narcissistics. Because the show is just that. Fascinating.

[DeaconElie]

@Nemisis

Yes, and the “A” question is a direct result of “B” event. Stop or change the event and “A” is no longer relevant. “A” cannot ever be changed without changing “B” first.

But it’s not, that is the part you fail to comprehend. And trying to explain to you is a complete waste you simply failed to comprehend the explanations.

@Nemisis

Ever seen a minority government covered in so many scandals, unbalanced budgets, illegal use of war time powers, removal of rights, and using any possible tool to get their way?

Not by a minority, the ones doing that now ARE the majority.

Liberals are anti authoritarian. I’m sorry you fail to comprehend that fact.
Liberal=unrestricted.
authoritarian=restrictive control.
You thinking other wise proves you have been misinformed purposely, and the people doing this depend on you not knowing. you are being played for a fool and it is working.

@Nemisis

Does this mean that you dont believe anything anyone says, or anything you say, claim or try to prove is all fake and lies?

Yes because everything online is a fact and no one lies to you

@Nemisis

“As long as the work gets done”

55 years of agribusiness and no farmer I have never met that would say that. If you said it they’d ask you what part of the city you were from.
When cattle are calving you are out there and they do not calf on your schedule. Most cattle calf at dusk or dawn, they can’t read a clock but the can a sunrise and set.

@Nemisis

Does a guy who milks at 8am and 8pm do it wrong?

Only if he has no clue, but have proven in abundance you don’t, so…

FYI, my uncle rarely got to bed before 10pm. 20 hours days were common. That is what made his 700 head dairy successful. Still run by family, but like 4th cousin lol Was my mothers uncle.

@Nemisis

Everyone is lying.

Wow you are a real piece of… work aren’t you.

@Nemisis

You realize things change over time right?

Still dark at 4AM

@Nemisis

Ive already said how building infractions are looked at quite a bit

You saying it does not in any way, make, shape, or form, make it a fact.

@Nemisis

so I dont buy it that it hasnt been deleted because its a violation

It’s ok to be wrong.

@Nemisis

And you think #5 is off topic, but saying this:

@DeaconElie

You still don’t get that is off topic.
Fascinating.

@Nemisis

isnt off topic

As a response to your off topic post.

Thing is the issue mentioned isn’t about the build, and I find it fascinating that still hasn’t dawned on you.

@Nemisis

The shoe fits, since Oduda claims there could be many many reasons why they think I am someone Im not, instead of the actual answer, they are wrong.

No the shoe doesn’t fit. How on earth do you think it does? None of that definition applies to what Oduda has said at all. It’s mindbogglingly you think it does.

You thinking Oduda’s posts are narcissistic behavior is just further proof of your sad lacking in comprehension of the terms you’re using.

Seriously, how do you mange to operate farm machinery?