A Concern About Patch Notes

[The7thCrest]

Continuing the discussion from Some positives about the most recent testlive update:

So I noticed some controversy on the forums regarding the new testlive patch and some “stealth nerfs”.

Ignasis posted there and said "

@Ignasi

Changes that are not mentioned in the patchnotes are not intentional and are being looked into as of the time of this writing.

@DanQuixote made a good point in response, and I think I would also very much appreciate a response to his question. “Can we take this as standard practice from this point forward?”

I have felt for quite a long time that the patch notes really need some more TLC, and I think that it would be very good for extended, explicit patch notes (complete with value changes, etc) to be available for Conan Exiles. I’ve noticed that some patch notes are very detailed and others are not-so-much. I don’t know if the same person writes all the patch notes, but given that the CE team is small and a lot of bugs are detected by community feedback, such notes would be VERY helpful for modders and Test-Live Players to help FC identify bugs.

Is it feasible for us to “take this as standard practice from this point forward?” and for FC to make detailed patch notes a bit of a priority?

[Multigun]

Refer to the following posts by ThomasJ (a Producer for Funcom), as the topic has been discussed at length already.

TIME FOR A PUBLIC STATEMENT -The Reply

Honestly, that never crossed my mind. You tell me. I certainly never said that. …for which there was absolutely no reason to tag him. You chose to do so. I consider that singling him out. What constitutes as auto-reply is another matter, but not really the topic here. I tagged you as I addressed two people in my post, and I felt it appropriate to differ between the responses. I think it was already obvious to any reader who I was addressing, so I don’t see the tag causing additional disco…

TIME FOR A PUBLIC STATEMENT -The Reply

We aim to include everything, but in a layman readable format. If that means hundreds of changes, that’s fine. But it can’t be ambiguous, or code snippets. Please note, I’m not saying lower priority in some link of the chain is what happened, or that it ever happens for test-live patch notes, only that it is something that could happen. I don’t think singling out a particular cause is a useful exercise. One should tighten (not cut) all the corners, and through that perform better in total. Y…

@The7thCrest

Is it feasible for us to “take this as standard practice from this point forward?” and for FC to make detailed patch notes a bit of a priority?

So the simple answer to this is simply, yes. Test the game on testlive. If you find something that was changed that wasn’t in the patch notes, report it. Ignasis/Community Support will take it from there to determine if it was a missed change, was something that was waiting on Funcom QA to confirm on, or a bug.

Here are a couple of recent examples.

Undocumented Change: Armor Penetration - Oil + Spiked Weapon Fitting

Revision #265775/27373 (no mods) It seems that the values on the oil of penetration + spiked weapon fitting have changed. Let me know if I have missed it in the patch notes: No fitting: [image] Oil of Penetration: +20% now vs +25% before [image] Spiked Weapon Fitting: +10% now vs +15% before [image] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Master Weapon Fitting remains at 12% for those who wonder: [image]

Undocumented Change: Weapons -> Weapon Schematics

Revision #264624/27310 Unless I have missed it, it was not mentioned in the patch notes: Weapons now delve 100% into a recipe. It costs 50 eldarium per craft and the recipe is rng (still within same weapon class i.e spear into spear). It is a nice change.