I thought the reason people PVP is to actually fight players vs hoard stuff. The game is meant to be played. There are different ways to play. PVP is fighting each other but without wipes, there is a significant unbalance that needs to be corrected. In PVE, there is the advancing and building your dominance on the server. Neither benefit from hoarding and detracts new players from even starting as the game is cluttered with player crap and urban sprawl. Games are about the journey, not the destination. If you are still in it just because of the stuff you have amassed, then you arenât playing the game. You are maintaining and unhealthy attachment to digital items you do not own and at some point will lose anyways because you have no true control over the server. Definitely not something that should be accepted in a public official server and better in private settings where you can maintain this control.
Huh? You are literally destroying other playersâ hard work in PVP mode and you have the audacity to complain that itâs wrong for a server admin to do to reset the power levels and bring balance to the public official servers?
There is no risk due to Body Vaults.
There is no risk to mass farm during non raid hours and body vault.
There is no risk to mass farm on dead servers and build massive bases.
There is no risk to offline.
So why even pvp if there is no risk? Those olayers are just toxic pve-ers who want no risk and act like they pvp. Go play pve or pve-c if you dont want player vs player raid risks.
Except that it does mitigate hoards and the mechanisms that allow hackers to also hoard that loot. Take yourself out of your own world for a hot minute.
There are longstanding undermeshed skybases with thousands upon thousands of stacks of duped, ill-begotten items. They have been there for years. YEARS.
So not only are they exploiting and/or hacking to have achieved this, theyâre running down the performance.
No amount of reporting it matters.
Additionally PVP servers are the most populated on private. Many popular ones with vanilla or vanilla like settings. A fair amount wipe and it is an expectation to do so.
Players will adapt.
Besides, if the concern is legacy items, what are they doing on PVP?
Because of this thread, I think I am against server wipes. It doesnât seem fun. And, that is my opinion after being the target of a few (base) wipes.
No need to hide the fact that you have many hours of experience and that weighs in on the argument. It seemed like another candidate to the settings page on this. Itâs down to either opt-in or opt-out of the wipe, server wide.
You have multiman clan? Iâm solo, so of course I differ. Maybe we should pinpoint what needs to be wiped if is not just building pieces. Maybe you donât like x4 harvests, but for soloâs on pvp it is good.
Itâs really a matter of time and more time for fun.
If you have to personally attack and name call, you are already at a loss. Way to play up the PVP player stereotype. Wanna threaten me while your at it?
who said this game shouldnt be play solo now youre changing rules just like erjoh because for some reason he want to wipe people completely he dont even want people to have bodyvault all of sudden i believe i gave you too much credit that you didnt deserve i take it all back and i dont give a damn about getting banned on this forums where everywhere there is 1diots i would rather be banned and stay calm instead of seeing you guys moronic ideas and statements
it doesnt mean game only meant to be play with 10 man clan you can play solo and bodyvault this also suggest it also meant to play for solos but you guys want to remove that i think there is nothing good will come out from your mouths both of you im done with this forum this community is joke
A wipe prevents hackers from hacking? Well it doesnât, and while it mitigates them for a time, its not very long. When working with a crew I can get back to being established in 3 days time⊠Iâm certain legit players who are a tad bit better at farming can do it in less. Hackers can cut that time into fractions.
You get three days of reprieve, if that. And then it feels like everything is back to normal (aka what you have now). And you better get to 60 in that time. If you end up with hackers post wipe on your server they may not allow you to get to 60, leaving you with iron tools and weapons while they blitz you with legendary weapons.
You may not even have three days. Maybe hours if unlucky.
And then theyâll be there in yearly segments if you wipe annually. Or 3 month segments if you wipe every 3 months. Or weekly if you wipe weekly. Maybe a 5 minute wipe cycle might curb them.
Theyâre not. Their buildings would have to be in the 75-100k+ range to have any appreciable effect. And while storage has an effect, its only on a mass scale among hundreds of players. Youâre going to see worse performance after a wipe once people need farm mats and run dozens of furnaces to rebuild again.
The biggest contributor to performance on these servers is bodies left in world. Not the body vaults which are inert until used. But hundreds of legit players per server who simply log out. When that option is removed, it reduces database size from half to nearly a third.
No other setting, attribute, or style of server has that much impact. Even mods donât cause databases to balloon that much.
So you have the option already available? Why not play there and let the people who donât want to wipe have their non-wipe servers? This is one of the definitive differences between FC servers and privates.
Ironically the ones asking for wipes arenât used to them. Theyâve been playing on no-wipe servers for years and havenât started over dozens of times. Its in ignorance that they make the request. And its been tried before. FC had PVP servers that periodically wiped. By the first or second wipe, they died.
It was that quick. If they started wiping PVP servers, Before the next Age, FC wonât be hosting PVP servers anymore.
i just came to check for last time what kiki respond to my comment and i saw what you said i agree with all you said these people didnt even played with those rules and asking for moronic staff without knowing it will destroy game furthermore because of these people i got banned in crevice for 3k building pieces i didnt made base laggy or stacked but because of there is 8k (1 crocodile kill worth xp) inside of the cave i got banned first you allow people to build second you put xp to inside instead of outside and then you ban people this is the issues that should have spoken not bodyvaults bodyvaults are solo players only way to save themself from complete wipe from 20 people zerg players i just found out these people have dont have emphaty and dont think what other players had to endure worst thing is funcom take them seriously
