Arcane Curio Cabinet Nerf

stelagel · 2023-03-03T09:05:29.020Z

Grymm:

Nicole, I bow at your feat of patience

With all do respect my friend, but @Community has no responsibility for any of all this.
But even if they did, and for the ones who actually do, there’s no doubt that we love them no matter what. They need positive and negative opinions equally to create data for feedback. They need us to be honest and express feelings, but always to keep it civil!

If we manage to keep it civil they will be able to do their job easier! On this we must focus, nothing else!

Hexsing · 2023-03-03T13:06:02.512Z

So in testing, adding a vault to my base would require me to expand much further. My base is pretty small compared to others I have seen on many servers. But with 6 deities (Which cannot be built close to each other) and crafting tables (The end game are all very large) and now a vault, my expansion needs to take place. Unless I do what I used to do which was create a room and Chest Stack, which I can’t imagine takes a load off the server.

The Curios to me was less about storage (go figure) but allowed me to create smaller more creative bases without having to use massive vaults I needed to accommodate for. My words or feedback are not going to change anything but I will give this as a helpful hint;

If you are going to release a product in the bazaar or in the Battlepass (which people pay for) please ensure that these items are well described as well as correct upon their delivery. In any other business, I would be able to return a product if defective or return it if it did not function as advertised.

Other examples of this would be:

Arcane weapons. The description clearly states they could be used as an arcane focus. Many people bought it for that reason.
That little arcane box - Turns out to be decorative, not functional
Curios and Bookcases - These were released and they had many many slots. The reality is that it was shipped this way. Thus at the time - working as intended. By changing them you changed the expectation of the shipped product.

I work in merch quality control and if we mess up we need to recall or honor an agreement. I am unsure as to why QA is not being done, other than some Youtubers who provide videos explaining the unintended storage, function, build or something that apparently breaks things, and then within a month or two…or in this case 6, we nerf or change the product that people got used to having.

This is less about nerf, and more about not handling your customer’s expectations properly. People may think twice before buying your product, if each time they buy, it becomes defective or changes dramatically.

SirDaveWolf · 2023-03-03T13:13:18.636Z

CodeMage:

That much can be answered: it was a data entry mistake that wasn’t caught by QA. Whoever created the blueprints for Arcane Bookcase and Arcane Curio Cabinet wanted to give them 40 slots right from the start. Unfortunately, it seems they were either new or just had a good old brain fart, because you don’t configure the number of slots for a storage item like that, you configure the number of rows. So when you set rows to 40, you get 40×5=200 slots.

I am fascinated by this incompetence, really. Excel table work gone wrong and QA not having a list of things on their table, that need to be checked.

Frankenstein · 2023-03-03T13:50:35.778Z

Anyone know if you will lose items in them over 40 slots,does this apply to just new built ones or old built ones too? It whould suck to lose say 160 stacks of bricks and reinforcements,

SirDaveWolf · 2023-03-03T14:47:10.042Z

The aesthetics are a matter of taste, yes.

But realistically speaking: you want more storage, you get bigger placeables.

speedice · 2023-03-03T15:47:29.305Z

I said it once, and it bears repeating:

Continuing the discussion from Bookcases? Really?:

Bookcases? Really?

Unfortunately, in your quest to

Bookcases? Really?

not harm those who chose not to purchase it.

you have harmed those who did. I received the Curio Cabinet from the Battle Pass. The bookshelf from the Bazaar is very similar. Both are overly large, and are the second smallest for storing items per container.

I can turn cabinets sideways and get three on one foundation, or do the same with chests. Also, at two wall heights, I can add a ceiling piece to do it twice.

Storage Comparison on a 1w x 2t space vs cost (no stacking, on floor and ceiling only)
Large Crate - 2 @ 50 slots = 100 Free in game
Small Crate - 6 @ 20 slots = 120 Free in game
Wooden Box - 6 @ 20 slots = 120 Free in game
Chest - 6 @ 45 slots = 270 Free in game
Cabinet - 6 @ 45 slots = 270 Free in game
Eldarium Chest Small 6 @ 50 slots = 300 DLC purchase (Siptah)

Arcane - 1 @ 40 slots = 40 (Battle Pass or Bazaar) BUT, I need 2 wide

Players bought the item because of the storage. I personally eliminated 300 placeables from my base with the additional storage, even though I did not particularly care for the look of the Curio Cabinet, or it’s size. I had to rebuild some areas to handle the height.

However, the rendering was greatly affected for the better by the reduction. But, If I have to rip out the ugly things to put in old, chipped up cabinets (would it kill you to make better looking cabinets?), I will do so, because the Arcane pieces just aren’t worth the space for what you get.

CodeMage · 2023-03-03T15:53:26.227Z

Frankenstein:

Anyone know if you will lose items in them over 40 slots,does this apply to just new built ones or old built ones too?

Barring any bugs that haven’t been discovered yet, you shouldn’t lose those items. It should behave just like any other inventory that went over its limit: you can take the items out, but you can’t put them back in if you’re at or over the storage limit.

However, bear in mind that bugs and glitches do happen, so if you’re extremely attached to those items, don’t bet them on what someone on the forums said

Taemien · 2023-03-03T18:50:43.977Z

Let’s assume for a moment that I don’t have the Arcane Curio Cabinet (which I don’t on one of my accounts). And I want to build a container that takes up the space that the ACC does, and has the same capacity, but I don’t have it.

Please tell me what my option is here that doesn’t require pulling out a credit card for a game I already purchased.

And I don’t want some ridiculous fantasy answer of “ThEy ShOuLd MaKe A vAnIlLa OnE tOo…” I’m talking about right here and right now in the next 5-10 minutes when I login.

Storage is something that is very much valuable in Conan Exiles and something even more valuable than combat stats in many cases.

Funcom has been very consistent about nipping these P2W things that slip through, so if you bought something ‘for the stats’ or ‘for the storage’ you have foolishly wasted your money and you’re going to be pointed and laughed at.

I warned Funcom about this crap months ago. That DLC, Bazaar, and Battlepass items should have no functionality, reduced functionality, and no stats. Otherwise players who think they are more clever than they are and want to use the wallets to solve issues over wits are going to complain when their toys are taken away or degraded.

erjoh · 2023-03-03T18:54:22.288Z

5 chests can be placed in the same footprint and give you more than 200 total inventory spaces.

CodeMage · 2023-03-03T19:07:56.375Z

Taemien:

Please tell me what my option is here that doesn’t require pulling out a credit card for a game I already purchased.

As @erjoh just pointed out – and as has been explained previously in this thread and many others – you can stack chests and get more storage space per same volume.

The only advantages Arcane Curio Cabinet has are:

it looks hella nicer
stacking chests involves a risk of losing your items due to stability bugs

And guess what? If we’re going to cry P2W because something is less bug-prone instead of crying to fix the damn bugs, then our priorities are pretty fuсked up, pardon my Poitainian.

erjoh · 2023-03-03T19:13:07.006Z

And the light source…it’s a functioning light source that doesn’t bleed through (like the wall lantern)

CodeMage · 2023-03-03T19:15:36.808Z

Yes, and that. And if that is P2W, then they could nerf that

Let’s be brutally honest here: Funcom isn’t nerfing this because it is P2W, but because it’s perceived as P2W and they simply want to appease those who say so.

Whether there’s anything wrong with that or not depends on one’s beliefs and values, and I’m not gonna go into that. But let’s not pretend that Funcom is removing an actual advantage here.

Tephra · 2023-03-03T19:19:02.762Z

CodeMage:

Funcom isn’t nerfing this because it is P2W, but because it’s perceived as P2W

No they aren’t. They are nerfing it because it was never intended to have 200 slots.

If they introduced a new free cabinet to the base game and accidentally gave it 200 slots instead of 40, then said they were going to fix it, people would be whining about them nerfing that too even though it was an unintentional mistake. The exclusive placeable side of this issue only makes the whole thing worse, but it isn’t even relevant to the base issue.

CodeMage · 2023-03-03T19:34:01.606Z

Tephra:

If they introduced a new free cabinet to the base game and accidentally gave it 200 slots instead of 40, then said they were going to fix it, people would be whining about them nerfing that too even though it was an unintentional mistake.

Yes, because fixing an unintentional mistake turns into a nerf after a while. The only one to blame for this whining is Funcom with their slow release cadence.

Taemien · 2023-03-03T19:56:37.220Z

CodeMage:

And guess what? If we’re going to cry P2W because something is less bug-prone instead of crying to fix the damn bugs, then our priorities are pretty fuсked up, pardon my Poitainian.

I never mentioned any bugs and have been stacking chests for years without issue. If I can stack chests, I can also stack ACC’s.

SirDaveWolf · 2023-03-03T20:01:05.500Z

Ragnaguard:

i would never speak realistically in a game where things like dragons and frost giants exist…

I said the same when horses were OP and needed balance adjustments. Some people insisted on realism. I do that now too.

speedice · 2023-03-03T20:17:41.694Z

CodeMage:

The only advantages Arcane Curio Cabinet has are:

it looks hella nicer

We shall disagree on this. I think it’s pretty ugly.

speedice · 2023-03-03T20:22:02.382Z

I have 9 chests in a 1w x 2h space. There is a way to sink the chests into the foundation by using the fence foundation to drop down twice, place a foundation at that new level, and you can get 6-8 chests in the hole. Add a ceiling piece and 3-6 more chests if you get creative.

Point is, there are better ways to store stuff.

ConanBoDk · 2023-03-03T20:32:07.585Z

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This is my way. Loved the cabinet for its 200 slots but knew that they would change it so I don’t change my chestwall style

CodeMage · 2023-03-03T20:34:51.052Z

That looks pretty damn awesome. Any chance of explaining how you made it?