I enjoy my habits so…
Don’t be silly. You don’t need any thralls at all. And since we are talking about a merge here and not a new build starting out from character level 1, you can bring a horse, an unleveled fighter, and all the worker thralls you want.
Wuuuut??? Your memories are wiped when you change servers? Dang, Funcom is WAY more powerful than I thought. LOL
Yup, that’s all a merge-move is… Just the possessions. And it’s not even 20hrs as they are moving at level 60 and keeping all of their Attributes and Feats with them - not to mention all or almost all of their accumulated materials - including special weapons and so on. With that being considered it’s much more like 2 to 3 hours - and not 20 to 30.
You know, when you move to a new server with the same map, you can’t tell the difference - it IS the same map. o0 Every plant, mineral and animal node is in exactly the same place!
Again, i understand the merge and support it. But i also understand the shell shock. And i wont trivialize thier feelings. You dont have to respond to them if you lack empathy, but saying “get over it” is obtuse to why some gamers play games and not really healthy for the forum as far as constructive discussions.
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I disagree! Especially when the response is primarily to people claiming FC is evil, uncaring, incompetent, and so on. No… FC is doing the best they can. What they’ve come up with is fair. People experiencing shell-shock over a merge-move probably have some much deeper emotional problems they need to address outside the game and outside these forums. I have some sympathy for them because of that - but not because of any kind of merge-move incurred by FC.
Yes indeed, for normal emotionally healthy people, “get over it” is exactly the proper response!
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No, bot all responses are that. You just focus on that. So speaking of therapy…
Of course I assume and expect everyone here to be normal emotionally healthy people!
What, you think they are not? How sad for you! And sad for them too if you’re right…
Teletubby ain’t wrong. If you take a 1000 ft view of this, merging makes sense, FC has made maximal accommodation to preserve what they can of people’s prior work by allowing carry over and people do need to step back and examine themselves if this really gets them in the feels. Every time my server gets corrupted after 100 s of hours of admin additions and player progress, I say, “Awwww crap!”… and then start over and move on and within a day I’ve already forgotten about the old database. Emotions should not be too tightly wound around an ordering of pixels.
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or an ordering of opinions. But alas, here we are. I get it. Some people dont want to hear complaints. But then just post once you think it is okay and dont feel compelled to let every new poster know they arent aligned with your opinion. That is a tactic used to stifle by mak8ng it seem like the discussion is not eveolving from differne t points of view.
IE opinion 1
then the get over it.
opinion 2
then recycled get over it.
opinion 3
then another go back to get over it.
Post 1 get over it, then get out of the way of the conversation is all i am saying.
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Except it’s not. In my case, the Sword of Crom I just discovered was my teammate’s. He’s gone now, I have so little left of his. I probably would not have looked for it were I packing to move.
The new player who’s really a 60 Sleeper is now aligned with us, and he brings a sizeable Clan. Simply because i was patient with him, and gave him a Black Ice Pick wen he popped up. But he paid that sucker back to me, after he got situated. And he gave me a beautiful Berserker in interest. Had I placed her, and we were forced to move, that gesture would be lost. And probably a bond between us lost as well.
It’s all of these attached memories, many of them shared. I really feel for their loss.
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If only people would stop posting the same complaints though.
Thread 1: Guy X Whhaaaa
Thread 1: Guy Y Get over it
Thread 2: Guy X WHAAAA
Thread 2: Guy Y Get over it
It may be repetitive but thats cuz its two sides not just one (lots of day or two old accts around here lately…). Okay sure, approach someone gently if they show up with something reasonable and maybe wrong but not hostile, but when its the same crap another day, sorry, not sorry.
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The problem where you mess up Tele is that you have some good logical points, but you also heavily infuse them with highly personal preferences or opinions and then project them onto people. Projection is a highly detectable behavior and many of your posts are filled with the flags.
I agree that all the people flaming Funcom because of the merges are acting sensational, emotional and at times, a bit clueless. Particularly the fact that many games go through this process, a fact that people who only see things through the lens of Conan only dont get. They’re looking at it through horse blinders. And saying Funcom is evil and is trying to harm their players or their own game is just childish. The merges are indeed a tough time, but necessary for the betterment of the game. Not to mention that other companies have handled things like this much worse than what Funcom is doing.
But weaving this into insulting projective tangents where you declare how people should think, feel or act about certain situations is somewhat sociopathic. Specifically, stemming from the characteristic of lacking the ability to see or even try to see things from another person’s perspective, and instead only framing the concept from your own thought process. Its just a no-no to “go there” in any reasoned discussion, you have the right to do so but it’s not by nature noble or likely to gain respect. But in a strange sense of giving credit, its at least not something conscientiously done, but is rather from a way the brain is wired, and the resulting issue that the brain thinks this is the correct way to act.
But yea the repeated pattern of the inability to see situations from anothers’ perspective is indicative of this behavior, and from this standpoint, it is indeed projection to start accusing others of having emotional issues. Because the sociopathic/empathy related behavior as described which leads to this accusation, is in of itself, the defintion of what you’re accusing.
Hence, “projection”.
The problem with projection is those that exhibit the behavior usually cannot see or grasp it, as it’s internally considered the normal way to think. Or it is countered by a claim that this is the superior way to act, and empathy laiden thought processes are the weaker and abnormal method. But this goes into nihilism and narcisistic areas which is a whole different ballgame. Sorry I have some background in this.
Tldr Why not just have reasoned discussions about Funcom and not twist in soapbox statements about people in this community and their personal/emotional states. That’s really not needed here. And tagging it onto the end of an otherwise logical point, kills what credence you had in your good point. It’s like making a rationed argument on world peace, but then not being able to resist tagging on a racial slur at the end because you just get oh-so giddy and excited during your soapbox and the awareness you have an audience tickles you to let out more. Like then “the real stuff” comes out. Listeners will suddenly roll their eyes and feel baited for “buying in” to what you had to say in the first place.
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Sometimes its effective to highlight absurdity using absurdity.
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Yup, exactly Darth!
There’s no projection. I’m not saying what others think or feel. I don’t care what others think or feel. I’m not here to try and garner “respect” - as if that would mean anything at all in an on-line game discussion forum. And I haven’t twisted a single thing anyone has said. I can only agree with @xwhitesky about the clueless and childish remarks of some people lamenting the loss of “nothing, absolutely NOTHING!”
If 10 people have an opinion, the 11th doesnt have to respond to everyone over and over withbyhier same counter opinion.
But you do. you care that they bash FC. So again, lost in your own bubble, where only you perception is the “right” perception of what is and isnt valuable.
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And sometimes people need to vent on a forum when they have a drastic change to thier game. Doesnt make dumb, childish, or haters. It makes them humans with emotions. If anything yhe emotional players love the game more, and those will feel betrayed more easily. Rmember, you only hate of you care.
No, that’s participation in a discussion - what people are typing. I have no idea what people are thinking or feeling and as I said, I don’t really care to guess either way. If someone has emotional problems to the point they need to vent in a public forum that’s not my concern - I’m not going to bother myself about that either.
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No they don’t but I cant tell you how repetitive many of the complaints are. You want to talk about frustrating? How about daily “funcom killing their own game” or “we need build limits” or “ban meta” etc when you love the game too? Just supposed to sit back while people leave an onslaught of puerile drivel online to describe a game that I’ve played more than any game ever and quite frankly has the best and friendliest staff I have ever met? No. I dont think I can sit those conversations out because I need to let the whingers have the space to vent.
if multiple people have the same feeling, then it needs to be heard. Thier are people who only want thier one view heard. There is a difference between 10 people having a similiar opinion and 1 person answering each with thier 1 opinion with veiled insults on intellegence and maturity.
Well it is a public forum. I’d agree if the disagreements were just flagging and hiding the other pov but as it stands, their opinion is still present for a reader to see. Its not like they are being silenced; they are being disagreed with. There is a difference.