Simple solution… just add new giant snakes to cobras roster
instead of 2 cobra variants, you can get 4 (like scorpion pet)
so random is the answer and every1 happy
but BP skin should be unique so probably need some work to be done (some kind of decorative armor would be cool)
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i fear it was intentional. i hope i’m wrong. It’s even on the paid track. They need to add a regular giant snake. There are plenty of giant snakes in the world they could just pick one of those. I think the pass one doesn’t exist on any snake in game so its already unique.
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The battle pass is not free. Yes, once you buy it, and finish it, and it gives you croms for the next pass, you still have to put the time in and time is money.
Wouldn’t it be easier just to make sure you don’t release a weapon or armor that isn’t equivalent to game weapons and armor?
Much like being able to count on bad updates, you can count on the bazaar getting some OP weapon or armor, then they “balance” it.
Regardless of opinions of pets; agree the are more ornamental, but a $ skin adding 1600hp to a pet defines P2W. Regardless of how weak pets are. If the bazaar had a tattoo that put a big red S on a thralls chest and added 2K HP that would be P2W. So how is this snake skin different?
Aside from the thrall being a superior fighter.
Here’s a test, name one other animal skin that adds 1600 hit points. Hell I might even pay for a skin that adds 1600HP to my house cat, or that rat.
Yes, it should be in game because I want it but refuse to support the bazaar or P2W. And it seems inevitable with every bazaar cycle there is going to be some thing that is clearly or debatable P2W.
And I have the croms to spare to buy it, as I have said I wont even spend funcoms croms in the bazaar. No way am I supporting that way over priced bit of money grubbing.
It’s cobras. I got one in 3 on test. None in 4 on live. And purely ornamental around my Set temple.
And you don’t see that as being P2W? You have to buy that skin for your pet to be viable, there for P2W.
That pretty much is what this is all about.
I really don’t want to believe that but you have to admit, funcom is doing this a bit too often to be a fluke. You’d think after having to nerf bazaar items a few times, they’d triple check stats before they hit the bazaar.
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i dunno, but i badly want to tell this
If you think conan is pay 2 win, try out new world - whos devs basically told they will never make game with paywall and expansions will be optional but now in 3 days there will expantion that even takes away stuff that was free till this time, and level locked behind paywall - now thats is pay 2 win and lies!
While conan devs actually is only ones i know who actually trys to please most active players streamers and also one of rare games where actually expansion and only visuals are pay to get, with i also try to get to show thanks for making game logically fitting for all kind of peoples ;D
Only some glitches and bugs should be fixed :D…
So its not officially pay 2 win but you found 2 bugs that just not fixed so far
Whataboutisiam is not a defense.
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Bad practices are fine as long as other people are doing it!
I find it really odd that people are complaining about this and not the absolute absurd amount of DP you get out of chests now… it’s almost like a lot of people complaining about the spear don’t actually PvP (which would make sense, probably less than 10% of this games playerbase does). I would argue being able to loot 60+ DP in 5 minutes on siptah is vastly worst problem than the spear, you can get away with a voidforged spear… but it does do less damage (with a master fitting it has 72 damage).
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Don’t disagree about the DP in the siptah boxes playing on siptah now its pretty crazy everything going on there.
the free dp is a minor issue compared to the decay timers and power of gods, though imo it would ideally all get fixed.
and people think im disparaging a viable pet here I am not, I would love all pets to be viable, and a regular version of the snake added.
on the subject of snake rarity, you can look up the food values its all RNG, put 5 in you should get one alpha… should, RNG will skewer results, some will get 5, some will get none.
but afaik this is not an intentional vision for the pets as by the devs livestream comments, for better or worse and with no free option its p2w.
So pay-to-win has nothing to do with meta and giving an unfair advantage but about not ensuring a base game equivalent is available?
I wouldn’t state that as the exact definition but p2w is basically pay for power, stronger pet than anyone else? yes, Can tackle a thrall? Yes, Can mess up a player in PVP worse than a thrall? definitely.
Don’t presume you understand the ‘meta’ on a new item/pet/etc, do the testing like I said, if you have different conclusions express them as I have as to why they aren’t pay for undue power, but many seem to not be doing the testing and are talking broadly based on their ‘feelings’ which you are welcome to but it doesn’t change the facts on its healthpool, damage, consistent strike rate, difficult hitbox, its near inability to miss, and its poison.
F testing. Do it in real time. It’s not worth it. Look you said you got a freezer full of them. How many are deployed and proven to be functional in real time? How many raids were thwarted because you got a giant snake guarding your base that you took your own real time to level up? I have been playing with one as a follower. Lost one. They are not overpowered at all.
The PVP community has continuously pointed out that PVE comments about meta items are in a confined and controlled environment and not taking into consideration the real world live use that shows failures of these tests. Having used these snakes in real time and leveling in real time. I will soundly say with 100% assurance, it’s not worth the amount of time as a well equipped berserker. A stack of noxious arrows and its dead dead dead. The end.
Go ahead. Get your clan of ten to waste their time and level all of those. Explain to them the testing shows these are p2w and definitely worth the time to level. Please go for it. I mean you have already said you wiped the server so you got the time to get them prepped before the set of players become a threat. You can easily prove this out and post your real world effects on how useful these things truly are…
Or you can stop wasting everyone’s time about how p2w these things are because you will NEVER use them in a real pvp game due to their limitations and weaknesses and recognize this complaint only affects PVE players because that is the only thing they are truly go for, the environment and they really aren’t all that either. But they sure are fun to have with you.
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Realtime? Lol “f the testing” 
then some diatribe on the pvp community.
this is exactly what I mean by feelings, ran into a non alpha first in pvp in “Real-time” even during the lag bug, its why we began the training investigation which isn’t conducted in singleplayer mind you.
however confined and controlled environments is how you extrapolate data, but does it mimic real world live servers and the various issues (lag etc) that can emerge? Nope, but it gives you a baseline understanding to the values you are dealing with.
as for the never going to use them in pvp lol see bellow , we are already discussing if it is worth picking up authority to boost them further or an additional one for more poison stacks.
But this is typical denial of reality from the PVE community blaming PVP players for pointing out anything in terms of balance, refusing to do any testing or listen to reason in any way, they just want to sit back let a snake/thrall/whatever kill every boss for them as they relax in their shiny untouched armor safe in their megabuild castles where they can feel strong 
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I see one. OK and your counter to noxious arrows is…what? It’s not like you can put a helmet on the thing. If you are offline for 5 minutes, it’s dead.
And keep dreaming of how I play it. I just like having the animal around. I never needed thralls but live to have them around and used to be a pvp player till I got tired of clans of 10 crying about balance while in the same breath wasting clans of 2 and 3. Complaining how the game is just no fun but perfectly fine with abusing exploits but condemning other that are using different exploits. Yeah Cry me a river.
Please god YES, we should have the free snakes be brought up to the same stats as the paid ones.
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Sounds like your the one doing all the crying bud.
but good luck with that.
You ok bud?
People ask for free version and here you are spewing your hatred toward anything pvp related.
A new combat pet type shouldn’t be locked behind BP. It’s like releasing new type of weapons only in BP so now only people who bought Chapter x 9 months ago can use x weapon. Do you see a problem here? Or maybe your hatred towards everything pvp blinds you?
Gameplay shouldn’t be locked behind BP.
The only thing we ask is free version of Giant Snake for all players to use.
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Wow … but they are still useless compare to a „real“ thrall .
Its not hatred towards PVP, just this BS that PVP calls it imbalanced P2W which the easiest solution is to nerf the large snakes to that of the cobras and I’m putting my foot down going hell no.
And NO the OP wasn’t asking for that. The thread is a complaint without the proposed solution which is telling that the solution type is irrelevant and just make it so it’s back to cosmetic only. The easiest way that is accomplished is by nerfing the giant snake. Ruining my fun with it. When we find out it’s a PVP player complaining about it…you dang right I’m calling out that it needs to be retracted due to lack of merit because pets aren’t good for PVP and it’s intent was just a way to dig at FC and use the term p2w. The rest is Rash and I busting each other with generalities and stereotyping and can mostly be ignored as background noise.
If you want to propose the adding the giant snake in the core game, start with that. Don’t take it as an opportunity to make digs at the game without declaring the intent you are wanting. They will take it as a real complaint and since you don’t provide what you are wanting, then they will give you the easiest path to resolution and that is gigantic snakes that can die if you happen to breath on them the wrong way.
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Can you guys please actually nerf the items that were already crafted with kits applied. This hasn’t been done in the past and I know that every large clan on official servers I play on has made vaults full of them already. This is just going to become another broken item that will survive forever in the game unless you guys get ahead of it and make the change with the next hot fix.
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You might disagree with the definition of P2W, and that’s alright, but you have to acknowledge that the content of the Giant Snake pet is not available for free; it is an additional option that comes into the vast topic of balance because it is indeed a functionality and not something purely cosmetic.
“Pay to Win” is the general label given to those additional functionalities, because you cannot have something that is P2W without it bringing something to the table.
You can argue about the reciprocity, say that the Giant Snake brings something to the table, but that it isn’t advantageous; or you can acknowledge that the P2W label is being used in a broader sense.
Also, I’m not sure we have enough retrospective about the Giant Snake just yet, so we cannot say whether it is useless or not, whether it affects balance or not. It might be useful enough to truly be P2W in the strict sense, you might be able to use it in a clever way for base defense in PvP, combined with other things, who knows with the amount of combinations and possibilities in Conan 
Now yes that is a good point 
Which is basically what the majority of people have been saying 
As a game dev, nerfing is typically the last thing you want to consider for anything. Buff the other things up to the level of the strong thing.
Actually though, the best solution would just be to have a generic giant snake pet that looks like the normal enemy version and have that be the ingredient to get the battle pass version, which would have the new stats. No new art assets would need to be made for that.