Well, thanks, but i dont have any issue with the camera settings…just thought that could have something to do with the major rendering / fps issues since last patch…i know they’re working on a fix and i also know, it could take until early next week…i’m not new to this thread
Yes i pretty much confirm in my case were the body mods.
Symtoms if you are afflicted:
You won’t play the idle animations.
You won’t play the stopping animations.
You will suffer from severe drop of frames that would be most likely random.
So in the end what i did was to remove custom body mods. And frames returned to normal. I would say maybe those mods would spam of error related with the character skeleton mismatch?..
I am not so technical but this is just the explanation i have.
Yes i pretty much confirm in my case are mods that will affect the character body. Seems like reference for the skeleton of the character are not being found. This create a storm of error that generates this stutter.
I am not sure if Funcom changed something on the character skeletons but also the issue of lands not loading. Are vanished by this mods removal.
I’ll re-add my previous comment from my own game coming right - it seemed to be attached to some mods that stopped activating on my G-Portal server which included Exiled Lands Improved, it might be worth anyone having issues to try removing just that mod first, I’m noticing it’s name coming up a lot and it ties in with what you mentioned about mods changing your character.
The mods that stopped working for me and caused the game to start running okay again:
Mythos:Greystone Building
Exiled Lands Improved
Warrior Mutator
-Admin Skelos Collector
-No Balance Changes for Warrior Mutator
Permadeath
It may not work for everyone but it’s a fairly low-risk removal with Exiled Lands Improved as far as game content and if it works for several people then that’s a bonus.
They do have skeleton issues indeed. For example, the “cannot hit with a hatchet” issue is probably due to a badly loaded skeleton and so is the disabled body (“jiggle”) physics. You can check it yourself: if you look down at your character’s body and you see the inside of the body then you will have the “cannot hit with a hatchet” issue and no body physics. However, when you die in the game and your character respawns, if you then look down at the body, you won’t see the inside through the neck, body physics will work again, and you can also hit flat things with the hatchet.
Tested some SP today. Worked fine. Added more mods. Played some more. Added more. Evereything worked fine. Had used admin to get a wheel of pain. Built some foundations, and stations. Placed some thralls. Hunted more thralls with thralls. Everything fine.
Added Exiled Lands Improved. Immediate FPS drop.
Removed Exiles Lans Improved. Everything seems to work fine again.
I think the thrust here is to gather as much data and experience as possible to aid the devs in tracking down the root cause of the problem.
Tupilaken, as did others, simply shared their experience, finding that ELI was involved. Notice I did not say responsible, just involved. He may find that other mods add to the problem also, if he continues, and I hope he does. It’s important work and I, for one, appreciate the efforts.
More data points lead to finer resolution and definition of the problem. Some of the testing reported here allow the devs to repeat and validate, thus eliminating a potential source.
We all want the same thing, a permanent and timely resolution.
I did not name names, and I’m not referring to specific parties. But there is also a lot of people taking out their anger on the dev of the mod in his discord. I agree everyone should work to help this whole situation, but as time goes on it seems more people are putting more blame on the mod when at worst it makes the already existing issue worse.
I just want to remind those (if any are here) that are thinking ELI -is- the problem, that it isnt. I’m worried too many people getting too heated about the mod might come here and cause the Devs to look into something that isn’t the root cause, thereby possibly delaying a fix further.
That said, I do hope the dev of ELI comes back with an update soon. It’s a great mod that, when the official patch does hit, -will- become the problem if left as is, which would be a shame tbh
Alright so I have to hold my hands up here and say the mods might be causing more than I realised. I had done my own tests and had the problems persist, with and without ELI so it appeared it wasn’t the problem. Again, there are also people with no mods with them too, so I thought nothing of it. However, I noticed Mebrilia mentioned body mods causing problems, so i tried disabling mine. This smoothed out FPS a little, but the invisible world was still a problem. I turned it back on, disabled ELI, and i had all problems back. However, with both ELI and my body mods off, things are pretty stable right now. I won’t say it’s a fix, because there is clearly a problem on Funcom’s end too, but it seems that a combination of body mods and ELI together cause some major issues. Turning just one off did nothing, both helped.
I have read all the posts that have been posted here so far.
One thing I am wondering after seeing all the eventual causes and eventual solutions is, what exactly are the devs working on as fix right now.
Have they pinpointed the problem? If so… would they mind telling us what it is that is causing said issue?
That way perhaps modders could start working on things and perhaps it would end much of the questioning. @Tascha and @Ignasi
It is a combination created on my opinion by mods that affect the body of the character. Maybe creating errors in bones reference. I am playing from hours and i have yet to see drop of frames at least for me.
It is also possible that the problem is still there even in unmodded games but the presence of some mods are aggravating the problem.
I’ve had hours with no FPS impact, and hours with FPS impact that dwindled FPS to less than 5 FPS at times, and never over 10. This is with the same mod list, every time. This evening I’m noticing that prior to my character suddenly beginning to auto emote and pick their nose or whatever, the FPS was fine. Is there a linkage with the new auto-emotes? Which by the way, annoy the hell out of me. Why isn’t there a setting to turn the damned things off? I really don’t need my character to randomly stretch or scratch his ■■■ to enjoy the game. Especially not when it’s every few seconds.
It’s possible and I don’t discount it, but I’m not entirely certain it’s changes to the character model specifically and not just particular mods - I finally got around to trying the game since the update and using both bbjigglephysics and the wonderbody mod I wasn’t getting any of the framedrops.
I will note though that I followed my usual protocol for whenever there’s a patch and started a fresh, new singleplayer game. It’s possible there’s something funky going on with databases and mods that make changes to things like the player skeleton are aggravating things which can lead to it, or some weird interaction with another mod. I keep my modlist fairly light with just things like boss hp balances for SP, multigun’s javelin mod and LBPR though and don’t use the ones with larger sweeping changes or a lot of added assets. All in all it’s a curious problem that just gets curiouser and curiouser.
I agree, because it seems so random. Other issues keep occuring as well, such as the entire Library in the Ancient City being whited out and basically not existing. Oh, the breakage…
I didn’t even think I had ELI - I was assuming it was one of the bigger mods with placeables or whatever - but disabling it has given me the new idle animations and sounds, and boy! They’re horrible, I want to be able to turn them off or mute them, they’re happening way too often. The only one I like is the one with the leg folding and weight shifting, that one makes sense. My framerate is much better so far as well, but that may change, I’m about to head out and explore some, so we’ll see.
Yes I have the same problem, I always played at EPIC, already downloaded to HIGH it was no use, then lowered to medium and is still crashing a lot.
The most interesting thing is that even when I died and was born there in the empty desert with nothing NPCs vegetation water nothing just sand still the game was pretty much stuck, and still disconnecting me from the server “you were disconnected”