I played a game called Don’t Starve. That was my first survival game and it focued on the eating part. The game did a really good job of starving you, making sure you have a purpose.
Not every survival game should be about eating and Conan Exiles already has purges, so maybe Funcom should focus on that instead.We should return to purges being random, give us a purpose to defend our bases, recruit thralls and level them up.
You deal with food and drink - as something you need to survive - for the first 20 hours or so of gameplay, probably less.
Beyond that, it’s just more of a “human need” - it would look weird if you didn’t need to eat/drink at all in such a complex game.
Not to mention that it’s not just about eating something or drinking something.
You can also drink to cool down or warm up etc…there’s more to the game than just water.
Food is even more important and I rarely eat in game because I’m “hungry” but for the HP regeneration or the bonus that food gives.
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Holy delusions, Batman, none of that is true. I’ve been playing ARK for years (almost since the very beginning) and everything you said is hilariously wrong. ARK has always been more buggy, ARK has always had worse customer service and worse responsiveness to player reports. Even though Conan is worse than it used to be, it’s still better than ARK for bugs and reports.
Yup, Conan has bugs too, but ARK has always been more buggy and also has its own long list of bugs that “stay for years”. If you’ve never lost anything in ARK permanently then you have gotten overwhelmingly lucky, most stuff that people lose in ARK is gone forever.
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This 
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I couldn’t say it better, well said.
The only reason i play elder scrolls online again, is because there are some really good friends playing it and i couldn’t reject their invitation again. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a decent MMO, especially for my console which doesn’t have the pc quantity, it performs decent.
But it’s so pay to win, so pay to win, that everything good this game has can easily be covered from the greed of this company, it’s simply disgusting pay to win.
Now, about ark…
Omg, friends who keep playing it on my console are waiting for updates since they keep loosing things out of no reason and many other really game breaking issues…
No thanks, i’ll pass
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Yea ARK is a technical mess since forever, and the team behind it is terrible. Much as I love cute dinos, Conan is a far better game in just about every way besides the amount of content.
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I play both ark and conan but i have much more hours in ark 20k+ i play ark for a long time i just stoped play it a little when ps5 got launched because i main played in both conan and ark pvp and in pvp both ark and conan ps5 give huge advantage vs ps4.
we still have many movies from ark in youtube check ark survival bdt pvp in ark we have almost 270 players in the tribe.
I moved in both from pvp to pve but i still log in pvp to help sometimes.
Every time we lost a dino or character for transfers or mesh the gms give us it back idk why it never happened for you maybe you didnt msg they but it always worked for us.
And again theres much more MUCH MORE bugs in conan and the bugs in conan stay for long time before be fixed in ark bugs get fixed fast.
People still use drawbridge in conan to enter in mesh did you know how many YEARS it got reported and the bug exploit still work today same for thrall feed pot 2 years broken and MAYBE MAYBE it will get finnaly a fix now.
The only thing hold me in conan yet are friends , the build system(its very superior from ark) and how we can change our character , thralls and decoration.
Because combat , rule system , endgame grind and group content in ark is very far superior from conan.
But I still have fun in both.
The same thing make me stop play ESO i hated so much how they turned it in pay to win.
I still miss the cyrodiil siege battles.
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Yes, obviously, and just as obviously so do I. So what?
Which means you should know more about how buggy and glitchy ARK is, because a large part of success in PvP is deliberately taking advantage of bugs/glitches in the game, everything from meshing to quetzal exploits for metal farming.
To be fair that’s true in Conan too, the tribes that are the most successful in PvP in both games are the tribes that know the most about how to exploit game mechanics for their own benefit. So yeah, exploiting is a big part of PvP in both games, but what this means is you should be much more aware of how many glitches & exploits there are in ARK because being successful in PvP depends on taking advantage of them.
A) I don’t believe you. You’re either making it up because you think it sounds good or maybe you’re just not aware of all the times when they didn’t restore things. If you’re not the person who submits reports for you tribe then it would be understandable if you don’t know when they get denied, but WildCard definitely does not restore everything.
B) Just for the sake of discussion let’s pretend I do believe you. If that’s true then it means you have devs and/or Snail employees in your tribe, which means they’re cheating for you even if you don’t know it.
There is no such thing as “Every time we lost a dino or character for transfers or mesh the gms give us it back” unless you have company employees in your tribe. You might not even know who they are but if what you are saying it true then I absolutely guarantee that they are there. That might have fooled you into believing that WildCard restores everything, so in that case it would be understandable if you don’t realize how bad it is for most people, but really that’s the only way you get everything restored.
This is not just my personal experience, it goes waaaaay beyond me. The ARK forums and Discord have always, and I mean always, been full of posts from people who lost stuff and never got it back, everything from dino’s lost in the mesh to bases that disappeared for reasons that don’t make sense. There are tons of people who never even get a response, tickets that get closed without the GM’s even acknowledging them, much less giving their stuff back. If it has never happened to you then you are suuuuper lucky (or, again, you have company employees cheating for your tribe even if you don’t know about them). WildCard fails or refuses to restore things for people on a daily basis, and that has been true since the very beginning.
Beyond this, what I do know for a fact from personal experience (from the tickets I’ve personally submitted over the years) is that WildCard will not restore anything unless it’s in your tribe log, and the tribe log is pathetically small. If a glitch causes you to lose 200 pieces of your base and 50 dinos you will get back, at most, 100 from those 250 lots items. They will not restore things based on your screen shot or anything you say, if it’s not in the tribe log then you won’t get it back. And considering you were in a tribe with 270 players that tribe log will never contain everything bad that happens, far to many things scroll off the bottom of the log before WildCard can look at it.
For example, I once submitted a ticket in which I was taking screenshot of the tribe log as glitch was happening. I had screenshots containing almost 500 lines of the tribe log, but when the GM met with me in-game they refused to restore anything other than was still in the tribe log, anything that had scrolled off of the tribe log, even though it was in my screen shots while the problem was happening, got ignored. We lost over 200 dino’s, they only restored about 20.
That’s just one example, but it illustrates one of the reasons that they don’t give everything back. If it’s not in the tribe log then it’s gone forever.
So, if you think that WildCard has restored everything you’ve ever lost, you’re either lacking awareness of the things your tribe lost or you have Snail employees in your tribe even if you don’t know about them.
And again, no, that’s just wrong. ARK has more bugs and also has plenty of bugs that have never, ever been fixed.
Just the single fact that ARK has 12 maps and Conan has only 2 should make this fact painfully obvious. Some bugs are part of the game engine, but lots and lots (and lots) of bugs happen because of the issues with each map. And others happen with the game mechanics that are unique to certain maps like the problems cause by pathing issues in Extinction).
Even if WildCard was better at fixing bugs (which, again, they’re not) ARK would still have more bugs because it has more maps. It is simply not possible to have 12 maps compared to 2 while having fewer bugs, that should be obvious.
To be fair, nowadays Conan has been having more problems with bugs than they used to, especially since Tencent bought FunCom, but even with Conan being worse than it used to be ARK still has a history of being more buggy. For the first few years of Conan that was one of the selling points of Conan, ARK has more content (more maps) but it also had more bugs because WildCard was more focused on content and Conan was more focused on bugs.
The hit boxes for some dino’s have never been fixed and “did you know how many YEARS” people reported problems with meshing in ARK before WildCard did any work at all on fixing meshing? It’s hard to fix meshing, and of course it’s not impossible to fix all meshing, but it was “YEARS” before WildCard even began working on meshing issues.
That’s fair, we each have our own reasons for enjoying games, and especially for enjoying one game more than another.
They each have their merits. Half of the maps in Conan (Isle of Siptah) have a bad end-game, but then about half of the maps in ARK (Extinction, Valguero, Genesys 1, Crystal Isles, Genesis 2) hava terrible end-game.
But since this is a debate about bugs and customer support I don’t see any reason to go into more details about what you’re saying here.
And that’s fair. At no time have I ever suggested that people can’t or shouldn’t enjoy both games. If you find them fun that’s good. Whether you enjoy a game for the people you know personally, the player community, or your preferences for certain game mechanics it’s good to hear that you still enjoy playing both regardless of what your personal reasons are.
After reading it i will ignore your biblical answer with many false information and i wll stop trying show you something you wont trust or accept.
It is like i talking to someone “the moon is round” but the guy keep talking " the moon is square and i dont trust in you"
Anyway i wont will lose my time with it since it wont change nothing good luck.
I’d like to pop in here and say if some one told me funcom had replaced all the thralls they lost, I’d tell them they’ve been eating too much hat.
More people play ARK because of Dinos. If Conan added dragon pets, mounts it’s player base would double.
With ARK it’s all about the Dinos, and that is also several of the reasons I hate it.
Dinos just have more fans then Conan.
And Dune has even fewer.
1: I have control of my bowels. SCUM did body management right, may be one of the few things, but the did it right; especially the dance your character does when he really needs to pee 
2: The entire game is mixed epochs. Not all those dinos existed at the same time. I was deep in to dinos as a kid and seeing all these mixed epoch dinos was like that one floor tile turned 90 out from the rest, just constantly nagging at me with its wrongness.
3: Large mammals did not exist at the time of dinos, PERIOD.
4: The balance of nature was nonexistent. Much like the northern wood of Conan the predators would not be that densely populated. If it was the predators would have made short work of all but the largest herbivores, then turned on other predator species, including cannibalism.
For me there was so much wrong with the game I was put off before I even got to the junky animations, bugs, and my fellow players with the last man standing philosophy.
Now for me PVP is like first person view, great if you get it right but far too often it isn’t even close. The one thing that puts me off 7D2D is the truly bad first person. If it had 3rd person I’d take a long break from Conan.
None the less you can try comparing Ford and Alpha Romeo all day, never going to be comparative cars.
No, the difference is that I have evidence for my argument, I have many examples of WildCard either refusing or failing to restore things that people have lost. It’s amusing that you’re trying to pretend you’re arguing that the moon is round when you’re obviously arguing that it’s square.
When you said, “ark bugs and glith are easy solved one example if you lost a dino for mesh or bug you just report it and they give you the dino back and same for character if you lost a charater when transfer or if server crash they give it back.” that can easily be proven false. Anyone can look at the ARK forums or Discord on nearly any day of the week and see that there have been lots and lots of people who have not gotten stuff back from WildCard.
Even if you have been the most lucky player in the world, even if WildCard has given back everything you have ever lost, it’s painfully easy to prove that many, many other people have not been that lucky.
It’s supposed to be wrong, that’s part of the lore (more on that below). ARK isn’t about Earth history, it’s a Sci-Fi game. When you looked up and saw the giant obelisks floating in the sky it should have been immediately obvious that the game had nothing to do with historical accuracy. It’s supposed to be mixed epochs, it’s not as if this was an oversight or mistake, it was intentional right from the beginning.
Neither did humans so… yeah.
Also intentional, it’s even referenced in the notes players find that lay out the background lore. They explicitly tell you that the balance of nature is nonexistent.
Sounds like you got hung up on some incorrect preconceived notions and didn’t clue into the fact that it’s a sci-fi title.
Mind you, I’m not suggesting that you are, or were, obligated to play ARK, but it’s pretty obvious that you couldn’t let go of some assumptions about what, in your mind, the game was “supposed” to be.
The people dont get lost dino or character back are people dont know how to proof how it got lost or people dont know how to write a report.
Like i talked you think the moon is square and i think the moon is round and its ok
Then why populate it with earth dinos?
It being intentional does not make it any less wrong. It’s the wrongness of it to me that puts me off it. I explained why I found it so wrong and your explanation doesn’t change it.
As in there are people that, when laying a floor, will put one tile 90 out because they know it’s going to mess with some one. Knowing that does not make any less aggravating.
If it’s a scifi how do you know it isn’t about earth?
Now If i had the brames to do a mod for ARK, first thing I would do is separate the dinos by epoch. Then make an intro with an explanation.
In the future earth is so over populated convicts that get life sentences; 60 years, serve that time in the past. You can’t be killed because you have to server your time. Nothing you do has any effect on the future because the comet wipes it all out.
But if you are going to do a dino game do it right or don’t waste my time.
For some people, yes. But for a large number of people, no.
The problem is you can’t see anything other than yourself. Again, maybe it’s true that you have gotten lucky, in which case congratulations for living a charmed life, but your individual good fortune is not a good example of what happens to most people.
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That’s obvious, so obvious it’s surprising someone of your ablities has to even ask the question.
Because dinos are fun and make a good hook for a game. That’s it, quite simple, they’re a fun hook, end of story.
Again, it didn’t bother you one bit that your character, a human, was going to live among and interact with dinos, and that’s just as fundamentally wrong as anything you’re complaining about. You cannot argue that it’s ok for humans to interact with dinos but magically not ok for there to be anachronisms among the animal population.
The instant that you agreed it was ok for your character to interact with dinos you surrendered all rights to complain about the game being chronologically or scientifically inaccurate. If you don’t like the game on it’s own merits (game mechanics, grinding, bugs, glitches) that’s legit (again, no one is required to like any games they don’t like), but to criticize it for not being scientifically accurate is just absurd.
If that’s true then you never should have tried to play it in the first place, becuase you knew in advance that your character was going to interact with dinos, you agreed to play a “wrong” game before you even downloaded it.
I didn’t say it’s not about Earth, I said it’s not about “Earth history”. Maybe it’s about Earth, maybe not, then again even the most casual, lazy reading of the lore notes in the game will make it obvious that it’s not about Earth (at least not for the first few maps foreshadowing dum dummmm).
The intro and the explanation are simple - you wake up on a beach, a fully formed adult human (or rather “human”) with an implant in your arm that no one on Earth has ever had, then you look up and see humongous floating obelisks that have never existed anywhere on Earth. Those are features which were included in all of the trailers and advertising for the game from the very beginning. If you didn’t clue in to the fact that it was anachronistic fiction before you bought and downloaded it, well that’s on you, it was painfully obvious to anyone who was paying attention.
Ummm wat? Are you just taking a shot at writing a synopsis for your own game or is that a mangled misinterpretation of what ARK is supposed to be? Nothing you wrote in that paragraph makes any sense in the context of a discussion about ARK.
Red herring much?
It’s not a dino game, it’s a game that includes dinos. And humans so… again, yeah.
WildCard is at fault for many, many things, but misleading you about historical accuracy of their game is not on that list. If you didn’t see that coming the responsibility is entirely yours.
That’s the fundamental disconnect I think you’re having with the game setting - it’s not about a human sent back to the past. It’s about dinsosaurs pulled from the past (or recreated, Jurassic Park style, or however) to the future.
Because the plot/story of the games makes it explicitly clear that it’s not about earth.
And also, because:
(timestamp 3.34 or so to start the bit that matters 
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I expalined how I expalined it.
But that floor tile is still 90 out, if I have to walk that hall daily, it’s going to bother me daily.
That was the last straws, I mean it was pretty cringe up to janky animations, everything being just a hair out of sync, and having to basically start all over again every time i logged in, I was done with it.
Then proceed to describe neither.
Yes, was that not blatantly obvious 
Please quote where I claimed to be misled.
So the point of earth like dinos, right down the the latin names?
Personally the only thing they did right was put in animals that never actually existed, I’d probably have liked it more if it had been more scifi mythical creatures then dinos.
Hell, as I pointed out the northern wood of Conan bothers me because there is not near enough game to feed predator populations that dense. The plains are right though.
Let me guess, you don’t have back stories for you characters do you?
I was a faithful follower of Mitra till Set opened my eyes to the decadence and weakness of the religion so in a drunken rage I killed a priest and defiled a temple. For that I was drug in to the desert of exiles and left to cook in the sun.
The point would be that they wanted to make a sci-fi game with dinosaurs 
Why did Hollywood make Cowboys vs Dinosaurs? (Actually, why does Hollywood do a lot of things…)
You’d be guessing entirely wrong. Every character I’ve played has their own backstory and motivations - from the Zamorian thief that eventually turned to civilisation building as a form of redemption (and got very confused by encounters with Cimmerians - “Stop skulking in the shadows like a Zamorian thief” “But I am a Zamorian thief ”) to the pissed off Cimmerian who’s only goal was to get the bracelet off and slaughter the buggers that dumped him in all this sand, to the Stygian temple acolyte who had managed to sneak a glimpse of a single page from the Iron-bound book of Skelos and now had a burning hunger for sorcery and power.
Don’t get me wrong - I guess I wasn’t particularly clear on this - I’m not defending Ark, I don’t like the game (though I do enjoy Neebs Gaming failing to play it…). Mostly I was just posting it for the Space Mammoth (I figured you might enjoy it), and figured I’d try offering a bit of an explanation to some of the questions you seemed to be asking.
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