@Ignasi I would like you to hand over this information to the dev team please. The feature I am talking about can be turned on in the “Gameplay” section of the settings menu. [image] You can set the range to a maximum of 2000 in this menu. Which is kind of a deal already, since it is off by default and new players will not know about it and if turned on, you will never lose your target, when you are chasing someone. In other words: he can not juke you by going around corners or hiding in bushes. To bring this “feature” to the next level, it is possible to configure higher ranges so HP bars are shown even further away (see screenshot). [image] IMO this is gamebreaking. It is basically an in-built ESP hack so you can always identify if a player is online (next to the decay time check) and where he is going. I am asking you to reconsider this change and I am proposing a removal of the feature, since it, if abused correctly, gives an unfair advantage to players. You can keep the always visibility of clan mate HP bars though, because this is a useful feature.

It’s been brought up before, so this thread isn’t anything new. That said, I still believe that the Health Bars are ridiculous. They fixed something that wasn’t broken, and it sucks. One would think that reverting the change would be a simple matter, but for some reason they’re dragging their feet in doing so even after acknowledging that it was a mistake.

I didn’t realize it was there might help me when I am following my wife. Understand that it cause problems for any sort of pvp I would not want to see health bars all the time.

[image]Dont you think"Always show healt bar" gonna ruined pvp? I personally have no issue admitting when I make a mistake :slight_smile: Exiles is a complex game with a hugely wide variety of players that all play the game in different ways. We do our best to keep in mind every kind of player when we make changes, but as you guys know we do sometimes fail to predict the outcome of any given change correctly. That being said, when we do make these mistakes we’re always going to do our best to rectify them. I totally agree. The health bar indicators are not up to snuff in their current implementation. I’m working on a plan to try to address them in a way that keeps everyone happy without fully pulling the option out. I can’t say exactly when that update will happen because we can’t schedule the work until we have the plan, but more than anything I just want you guys to know I hear you I understand the problems the bars have created, and I’m sorry we let you down on this one. This quote was August 2021. I bring this up often as this change particularly annoyed me. I think they are aware of the many problems with always on health bars. Stealth in PVP does not seem to be a priority to the team, which is a shame.

Agree with removing the feature for hostiles/neutrals. Keep the feature for friendlies.

Bring stealth back, remove this option completely! Never should be added! Who makes this decisions at funcom?

If we’re talking about stealth, then I doubt the healthbar removal is enough. Like I support the idea. But I think we could take it a bit further. Personally I would like to see stealth tied to an attribute (maybe Survival or Agility). And what it does is while crouching, it does two things. First, it reduces idle movement. Because let’s be honest, when we normally crouch our characters move a bit too much and that can cause attention. Already crouching reduces the noise characters make while moving. So that’s good. Second, perhaps it adds a level of transparency to the character (I wouldn’t go fully invisible) based on the attribute and the lighting level of the area. So if its night and there is no artificial lighting in the area, perhaps you are half transparent and still with max of the attribute. This way you could get the drop on someone and do a combo before they have time to react. Which would even out the fact that you are missing some other stats such as health, stamina, damage, or combination thereof. I know this is steering the topic off base a bit, but I think everyone is in consensus that we need health bars gone. So its very likely we might see them fixed. But I think this added feature might really cinch it for a stealth system. At the very least I wouldn’t mind seeing the idle movements of crouching toned down.

[image] Taemien: If we’re talking about stealth We’re not. That’s a potential derailment you’re falling for there… But I just wanna add that I think Funcom’s level of concern on this issue can be measured by their inaction. People have been telling them about this for about a year now. Number of Funcom actions, comments, hot fixes, or patch updates addressing this? ZERO

It could be that its addressed in 3.0 if there are other wholesale mechanic changes. If they had something new that affected the health bars that bears directly in 3.0, it would make sense to hold for the big reveal when its time.

If we could avoid going into Funcom Bad rhetoric, that would be appreciated. The idea of Stealth in the topic has merit because healthbars directly affects that aspect of gameplay. If stealth is not a concern then healthbars showing are likewise not a concern.

It’s just the facts, not “bad rhetoric” whatever that means! There is no stealth in this game - at all! So no, nothing of the sort is directly or indirectly affecting that form of gameplay - as it doesn’t exist!!! Again with the derailments… UG!

Option "Always show health bars" is basically an in-built ESP hack

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Whoa!!! Massive kudos to @den …

But that was almost one year ago - 8 months to be exact.

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