Permanant extreme cold

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While running thrall acquisition missions in the highlands I am in perfected pictish armor using the solspiel shield to mitigate the cold to be survivable, when running thralls back to my base I consume spiced foods to do the same. At one point I was in a state of extreme cold due to not reconsuming the spiced food because I was back at base, upon placing the thrall I reequipped the shield, my temperature returned to normal, however the extreme cold debuff didn’t go away. I turned on admin commands and grabbed an armor to fight the cold, I got the hot debuff but extreme cold didn’t go away and neither did the constant damage. I’ve taken a screenshot to show the effects


I hope this provides enough information for you to get to the bottom of this, if more information is needed let me know.

Not sure why the debuff won’t go away, but…first of all, Pictish armor is made for hot weather protection and will make you colder, add to that drinking water cools you down quite a bit. Those two things will definitely make you cold in the Highlands. Also, if you swim or go through the water, you will cool down. Even without the temperature resistance attribute, you should be able to use a cold weather armor in the Highlands and not get too cold. Yes, if you are swimming and take a few gulps of water, you will get cold. But the armor thing…when I arrive via maproom from the desert to the Highland base that we have, I have Aquilonian medium armor, which is heat resistatant, on and if I don’t change it to my Vanir or some other cold resistant armor, I will get way colder than I am comfortable with.

Also, spiced food helps warm up, but makes you thirsty, if you drink water, it counteracts the spiced food warming effect. Try taking Mulled Brew or Spiced Tea along with you to quench your thirst but not cool down when you eat.

this bug happened often with me

that notofication about extreme cold just stuck here until you relog into server but its just text, in fact you may be not affected by extreme cold

most often in happened when i log in to the game in areas with hot, cold or etc, change armors when affected by this and more and more

Adding to what @FastJohnny said, Deesrt Berry Pulp and Highland Berry Pulp are temperature neutral, no effect either way.

You may want to use them as a default if you expect out of bounds temperature variations. Thirst mitigation is only 10 units per sip, but the ratio of water to weight is actually better than a waterskin.

Regards

jim

Honestly i have still my mainbase mostly there around.
And yes, like said, pictish armour is for the hot climat, not the cold, here your first error.

While in the green, a middle warm armour is fair enough, also no need for warming food. But once you cross the snow limite, sure temperatur may go down quickly, so be prepared.
For the extrem cold, like around the Frost Temple and such, the turian armour like shown in you picture is perfect. Wear it when you go in the snow-biomes, and you should be fine. Longer trips may necessite some special food. Take some tea also to drink. Soups may also be fine.

But back in the green north, the very warm armour is mostly to hot, so remove a part, or change it for some other, try some mixt.

Today i did two trips at the Frost Temple, with the heavy turian armour. I didn’t ever take Solspiel with me. Used about 3 meals, 1 tea, 2 soups, and that’s.
Drink and fill you up before entering the cold area, then care when and what you drink, this may cool you down lot at once. Mix, tea water if needed.
Some alcohol may also give you heat, but there is still a price, so run some tests. :wink:

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Actually, I run nekkid in that biome. My temp stays a bit below neutral and the berry juice keeps it that way.

The only time I have a problem is crossing the bridge of the betrayer, but, still unclothed, I use food/drink with heat properties and lose little health. A good chilly run gets the heart pumping :slight_smile:

Regards

jim

Unfortunately running don’t heat up, but may give some impression of, why not.
I would we could dance to warm up. :rofl:

But yes, as long your trip is short enough, with correct food you will hold a while. Still for a longer trip, or building a base there, some warm armours may be more appropriate. Food, drinks are more an addition, but helps to survive, but also counter an effect, or stop it at time.
I use still the bridge to make the journeystep for my characters. One of the easiest place if prepared.

Agree, but the run from the obelisk to the warmer biome is short and easy to mitigate the cold with a couple of Mulled Brew and Spiced Steak. When I tuned the bracelet, I ran it both ways with no health loss by keeping two stacks of ‘warming up’.

Now, it’s a single set of the above to get from the obelisk to the biome without losing any health, then I get to ‘swing free’ while there or in the mounds.

To be complete, I must mention that I have the perk ‘Impervious’, but have done the same without it, losing less than a third health. Easily remedied.

Obviously this will not work if I spend any snowy-time, but for now, I am still playing warm :slight_smile:

Regards

jim

Yes, have my mainbase at Skyholme like so often, so i make often the run and go farming the keep.
Like said, the perfect place to make the journey-steps, run, all straigh, with some food, all good. :sweat_smile:

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I was fully aware of the fact that Pictish is warm weather and made a conscious decision to do this as I had gear that allowed me to stay at cold-very cold, I only got extreme cold when I put the shield away. I have high vitality (30) so I can last a long time in extreme cold, long enough to do my thrall run from Asgarth to Mounds of the dead and only lose 20% HP, I equip my shield, heal and repeat the process, however one time the debuff and hp loss didn’t go away. I run a strength build and there are 0 strength based heavy armors with cold protection. When I found out that the Solspiel shield countered enough to survive there I did so instead of my Turanian Armor. I did fix it without reloging, I went to my map-room at base and teleported to the Volcano and it went away.

So this discussion was about a glitch, not my sanity, I know all the ways to warm up and cool down, I simply wanted to inform the developers of this glitch where the extreme cold debuff wouldn’t go away even when I brought myself to having the very hot debuff. I knew full well what Pictish does, it’s my go to armor for the volcano as it keeps me in the warm without ice or water usage. I made a conscious decision to risk extreme cold in order to have a strength based heavy armor, it worked with the right gear, I also carried spiced food for when I was dragging thralls.

Copy. Your sanity was never in question.

Thanks for the input.

Regards

jim

I mean it should be, I was in a cold region sporting 10 heating and 5 cooling, now I’ve decided to be more maneuverable and use the Kambujan Shaman armor, it’s cold resistance so now I won’t even get extreme cold for the glitch to occur anymore. unless I go to the Frost Giant Fortress. I’ve found the medium armor dodge roll is quite useful, heavy barely allows for dodging most attacks but not the ones I need to dodge.

Another but very important question now, are you using mods ?

I mean, when i read what you wrote here, i’m seriously asking me what is going on in your game. I don’t need very warm armour to do a run from New Asaghard to the Mounds.
The only places where i need it is when crossing the snow boarder, and go over the bridge of the bretrayer, or else nothern in the snow biome.
Temperature can varry of course, and depending tunderstorm where it can be hotter, and some more cloudy wether just so, it’s never extremly hot or cold.

The more, you’re playing singleplayer, where i ran most of my latest tests.
So, of course, a mod causing this could explain well these strange things.

Agreeing with @Vattende here. I typically run this biome nekkid, and did so even before taking the second vitality perk.

I like the challenge, but suffer nothing from temperature effects. My temperature gauge stays slightly below midpoint and using water only gives me ‘getting cooler’.

I have found the same behaviour solo and online private.

I recognize your intent is to lend information to the devs about a problem, but we have yet to determine the nature of that problem.

I recognize the fact you are a knowledgeable player, so would ask that you run the following test and let us know what happens.

Back up your current save and config files. Restart the game, disabling any mods you may have, and make the run without armor at all. Use temperature-neutral food and drink (berry pulp and steak). You know a safe way to avoid most enemies. Only kill what you must, taking a pet or thrall.

Revert to the saved folders when done and tell us what happened?

Regards

jim

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Just come back to you after some tests more i did on my current game, with the actual patch.

I was at my base near Sepermeru, so dressed for the hot areas. So i called and we went on a nothern trip.


Like you can see, i’m wearing a vanilla relic-hunter top, with black-hand pants and boots. For the tests i added some special high-grade earrings with 2 bars hot-resistance.

Then we traveled to New Asaghartha.


My temp is stable, and i’m very confy, this still in southern armour.

Then, Skyholme ruins with the Godclaws


Here we are, some lightenings in the sky, night is falling soon, and i’m still very fine. Not cold at all.

Let’s go to the Mound of Dead
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near the water, temps is lot colder, but after all, i’m still fine in my silky stuff.

I camped bit ower the mounds, then traveler bit farer north, up to the snow boarder, near Velstadt ruins.
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You see the snow, temperature has fallen more, it’s colder no doubt, but i can’t still stand it without changing my armour, and without warming food.

Sure if i want to push more in the snow biome, i would have to change for some bit warmer armour. But there is definitevely a problem in your game. It’s never ever as cold there as you told or experiment in your own game.

Hope this help bit further to see clear, and figure out what is going on in your current game ! :smiley:

Please read my whole comment, I stated I wore the armor for the defense value and the attribute buff, I made due in the cold region, I’d prefer if there was a cold based heavy strength armor, but there isn’t. When going to the colder regions I wear the Turanian armor, I sacrifice my strength but agility isn’t so bad.

Once again read the whole post, I know all this information already, I was making a purposeful risk so I could maintain a strength heavy armor. The issue was I was affected by a permanent extreme cold, even when I switched to my Turanian armor and got to very hot, I was still taking damage from extreme cold. This was the issue, I am 100% aware of the temperature of all the regions, I know what I can get away with and need in terms of regions. Please fully read the post and reply with useful information, it’s about a glitch where the extreme cold debuf wouldn’t go away even after getting to the very hot debuf.

I don’t understand the point, unless I run into the snow region I wouldn’t reach extreme cold to see if it sticks, It’s important to note that I’ve run across the glitch before. I was using the hyperborean, back when it was cold protection, I did a battle at the frost giant fortress. There are several locations where I’d hit extreme cold, I’d avoid the giants in those areas and fight them in safe areas, but at one point the debuf didn’t go away, just like this time, I’m unaware of why the glitch occurred and the only fix seems to be teleporting to a hot region, 1sty time I went to the sinkhole, the 2nd I went to the volcano. I’d like to keep this post focused on the glitch not about what one should wear in each region, that should be talked about in a different post.

Fine. No point in giving advice if you keep repeating yourself and refuse to test.

I neglected to mention running into the snowy area and experiencing extreme cold, losing health and regening it. Perhaps that’s why you seem to be hung up on your insistence that I did not read your post. Or, it could be, that I did not teleport out, but ran.

Either way, I don’t care.

Have a nice day.