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Fix a vote then. They gave us the right to fix these things and and vote.
If i knew how to do it i would, i am sorry for this incompetence :rofl:.

No,

Even if the outcome is in favor to resell the previous Battle Passes content I don’t think its a good reason to break a promise to the players that are affected by it.

You mean this?

Dennis mentioned that some of the challenges will be tied to rewards for encounters so that the challenges more effectively engage the players with the new content.

I find this on @darthphysicist recap, but it’s too English for me to understand, it’s higher than my lvls :rofl:.

Lol no, their statement about not reselling the old Battle Pass contents after the Battle Pass is gone.

I don’t remember this statement, was it vocal or written?
Who did this statement?

This is precisely why I replied to @stelagel, trying to explain why I’m arguing. I can’t speak for anyone else here, but I can explain my own motives.

I want to make it perfectly clear, if I haven’t so far: I believe you have the right both to hold that opinion and to express it.

When you make arguments to defend that opinion and those arguments seem wrong to me, I say it. When you do it in a way that seems to belittle someone or judge them, I react to that too.

Yeah, okay, an assumption is a different thing. They did say it was advice from their monetization “expert” and it’s normal to assume that this expert advice is based on certain projections and experience and whatnot. You’re assuming a certain degree of good faith and there’s nothing wrong with that.

The point I was making when we started this particular line of discussion is that, assumptions aside, we don’t actually have any insight in their numbers, so we don’t know in what way removing exclusivity would impact their revenue. We can speculate, but speculation is generally not a very good argument, especially when there are strong (albeit speculative) arguments that BP does not drive revenue directly, but rather engagement.

Vocal, in that same stream you linked to. When Dennis was describing their plan for the BP, he said that they don’t plan to sell in BLB the same items you get from the BP, but they might put up variations of them. And that’s what they’ve done so far.

Its in the recap you shared with us :wink:

And thats written too, official statement of Funcom!
Yet, like i said, these English are high lvl for me :rofl:. So forgive me! What i took from this os that they expect community to ask and they 'll react if necessary. I couldn’t see that this statement means

“you won’t see us selling these items again”

Why they do this, what’s the profit from a situation like it?
I believe that when it comes to sales, they must be open for everything.
But that’s why i am poor i guess, lol :rofl::rofl::rofl:.

The only argument that matters the most to me is reliability and trust.
I expressed this as a promise as they stated not selling previous Battle Passes contents after the Battle Pass is gone, which they clearly stated in the video and it didn’t change ever since.

There is nothing to argue about, you can disagree with it all you want, but these are not my words, its theirs.

I only say they shouldn’t break this promise/statement they made. For various arguments like trust and relability.

And this is really where my argument ends.
I hope Funcom does the right thing, which is hounering their promise if they keep wanting to be taken serious.

Might not sound right you you, which can be your opinion, but I don’t think they should break their promise based on how someone feels about it. And that’s my opinion backed by the argument above.

Now I ask you… I accept the way you feel about it or think about it this is just your opinion, your views, will you finally let me go and accept the way I think too, as a equal Conan Exiles player?

Well arcane building kit is in the bazaar that was in AoS chapt 1 BP on the dev stream

Hoo boy, now that is a rabbit hole I don’t want to fall into. But maybe I can prod @LostBrythunian into expressing his own views about Funcent’s reliability and trust, I’m sure it would be worded in a way a lot of us would appreciate :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

(Just kidding, @LostBrythunian)

I don’t have a problem with the way you feel about it. We’ve already established that we disagree about our interpretations of their words – you believe they made an iron-clad promise and I believe they didn’t – but there’s nothing to argue about there, either. We simply disagree. :man_shrugging:

At least Funcom is not enemy of their pocket. I missed the first seasons first chapter out. I always buy the building sets exclusively, so this time my set will be complete.

I predict the next problem for people will be that why they sell for 602cc 2 slots in a 1200cc battlepass.

Haha yeah, all the more reason why Funcom shouldn’t damage their reliability and trust even more :')

Never heard of iron clad promise, but you don’t have to say “I promise” to make a promise

Anyway, just wanted to be sure if you’re ok with it, cause it really seemed to be a big issue, no hard feelings lets move on :slight_smile:

Like they mentioned in the previous livestream we discussed a while ago.

They will be making a alternative variations of some items that are popular.
This one I felt was really a missing piece for most people missing the BP so I think its good people can finally have a alternate version of the same pieces for those who missed the Battle Pass at the time.

Yeah and these aren’t 100% replications. The BP was more brass/gold in coloration while these are more stone/silver so the BP crowd can still claim exclusivity. Its going to get messier if they start doing armor sets that can be dyed.

Some people on this thread think that writing longer and more angry posts while mocking someone at the same time is going to make their point of view more valid.

It wont.

Integrity? It is you, grown adults, who act like spoiled children trying to bend the rules to suit you.
In every other game battle pass works exactly the same. Yes, sometimes they recycle items, but they return with different features or different colour.

But recycling items just for few of you, when the development is so slow already, is going to hurt the majority. I want to have new items on my next BP not recycled ones. Who is going to buy a recycled battle pass?

You people try to pose as victims of some kind of injustice, fraud or even harassment, because you can’t bend the rules.
Meanwhile in adjacent thread the same people say - “spamming my builds across entire server takes away good spots from other players and decreases performance? Well it’s just your point of view. It’s not against TOS so I’m going to keep spamming my bases all over the server. I don’t care about others”.

Angels of peace and charity.

It’s really childish what you do here, begging, trying to bribe with money, threats and accusations that devs and the company are fraudsters etc… Childish behaviour is the mildest word we can use here.

They should not recycle these items, just to give Karen a lesson.

WTF?! I love this abyssal hound so much more than the BP version

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I would have proffered seeing a little more changed to the shape too or another embellishment… but Funcom being Funcom and are probably too lazy to do it lol

It’s like in all the MMOs.

Magic Unicorn with red flames returns as same magic unicorn but with green flames.

No one was requesting the items be recycled in place of new content. In fact, if you read my post, I specifically suggested that the current BP for whichever chapter has to be completed before someone could activate a prior pass. But that’s all it would be: flipping an “on” switch to a prior BP that a player would only have access to if they met certain conditions. Yes, there would be coding involved to make this word (and possibly remove the crom coins which I think would be fair) but no one suggested using old passes in place of new ones.

Please consider reading topics before you choose to debate on them.