Jesus man.
The last dupe “needed skill”. So that makes it OK?
Our server is a wasteland of half-demolished bases and players that have left because of exploiters weaponizing the purge.
Are you really suggesting that Funcom intended the purge mechanic to be used to demolish bases and kill thralls on PVE/PVE-C, and on PVP outside of raid times?
I’m willing to build a base high up in a tree and keep all my thralls up there to (help) prevent this, but the average player is not going to go to that level of inconvenience. They build in the way that Funcom advertises, have their bases and thralls wiped, and then quit the game to go play something else.
No but it’s not the player to blame here neither it’s easy as presented. In the matters of feedback you have to be truth and emotionless. Never forget that your despair is someone else’s fun and they are players that simply play the game their own way with mechanics that Funcom allows since launch.
The mistake, i believe, burdens ONLY Funcom, no other, because it’s them that allow it all these years, like you said in your earlier post…
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Even if you do a sky base they will find the way to hurt you if they wish. Do you forget the pve-c war? People can build up high and push something in your yard. Or on pc to buy a hack and make you loose most of your knowledge that you cannot retrieve.
These servers are not safe nor they’ll ever be until they decide to make them.
That is a really interesting way of looking at griefers clearing out entire servers by abusing exploits to destroy bases and kill thralls on PVE/PVE-C (and PVP servers outside of raid hours).
I suppose dupers are also playing the game in their own way using mechanics that Funcom allows?
Let’s just say that you’re not understand anything of what i say to you, blame me for it, no problem and move on.
But remember this my friend. Hunting other players, reporting them and expect to get hurt, makes you no better than them. They just know how to hurt you and you simply can’t.
Stop taking it on me and look on your mirror. Maybe then you’ll understand why your reports end up on the bin.
Have a nice Easter.
Even if it needs more skill than just kitting them, @AngryPotato is still right in the fact that the new purge system is easier to exploit than the old purge , even if the old purge could be very destructive with ill intent , the new purge just doesn’t have a lot of the “negatives” of being limited to raid/purge time , having to fill up the meter ( that can be only 1 per day ) ect… that the old purge had , being affected by zones , where now the new purge is the same everywhere but tied to tiers , so you can even target a specific tier you want … so the dimension of skill and knowledge you need for the old vs new is clearly in favor of the latter for ease of exploit , nonetheless the hole if it’s in the game since this long does that mean the devs agree to it tacitly i don’t think so it would be giving too much credit to them I think they didn’t think things through enough to understand that it will become a problem , there is some way where the new purge could check surrounding area to make sure there is no other clan base in a certain area around the coffer and could be as wide as needed … but who cares right ?
what did you expect form an angry potato that is having issues with the new purge while you haven’t experienced it yourself . put yourself in his shoes for a minute , someone is wrecking havoc on his server , and you speak of hypothetical dev acceptance of an exploit since it wasn’t fixed while having 2 different system for it and that we can see more often people banned for building buffer walls that prevents access to resources or building spot , more than those malicious people as one is much harder to report than the other …
Seems to me it would be real easy for funcom to check the server logs to see who built what in the area, at that time, and if they triggered a “purge”. Then it’s a bye bye.
I know I got a resolved notice for my report, I like to assume they meant a ban.
But we really have no idea if people are getting caught and banned for this. I mean I honestly wouldn’t expect some one to pop on here and complain about getting banned for using an exploit.
You misunderstand we are not advocating for bringing back the old purge … I was the first one in this thread that specified this exploit was already present with the old purge and was already bad then, saying the only thing that change with the new purge is that it is more consitent / easy to exploit.
we want the mechanic to stop being exploitable , no more no less … but because it’s been there since the beginning I have no faith on it being fixed or fixable by Funcom’s dev team …
because as you said the human nature is varied and all encompassing, and some people will do anything that they think is fun without altruism. especially in a video game. So the only way to make people not exploit is to not let any exploitable thing in the game.
What exactly then you haven’t understand in my replies?
I know that you know what happened in the old purges @Kanza1 when i arrived in this forum you were already a veteran in here.
How can you not remember that the old purge system could harm others even “accidentally” it didn’t need specific system, or skills to harm others, just “noobiness” mostly.
How can you not remember that the volume of complaints we had in here about this mistake was huge.
And how come i keep getting attacks from members especially the op when i support his cause???
And no you cannot blame me from not trying to get on others shoes, not me!
It’s not players fault is what i say it’s only Funcoms fault and i keep accepting stones from players…
Go figure…
And guess what @Kanza1 i never ever used Zendesk to report others for overbuilding and these bull.
I am the last person you should attack in here. All the rest who might have reported you in the past and keep spamming reports you hold their hand tightly.. Well done!
I’m sorry that you feel attacked by my words man, I’m just stating facts that when done with ill intent aka exploit the game , the new system is worse , while done as a noob , it’s not technicaly an exploit , just a “bug” that people experience , and by the “limitations” of the old purge it was harder to do , of course we are not advocating that the old system wasn’t flawed, we are just saying that when they made the new system, knowing already all the problems of the first, didn’t they made sure that it couldn’t be exploited in this way … maybe they simply cannot …
also I said to you , what do you expect from an angry potato as a joke from the sense that this person chose to name himself angrypotato and made the effort of showing us how angry his potato is
When this purge system was presented i was so sure that they fixed the old exploit that i was giving it on top of my list of the differences between new and old system. You cannot imagine my disappointment when i read the first report in here for exploiting the new purge system too .
This game ain’t a sandbox, but a sandtower in the beach, especially on official servers. Others will have fun building sandtowers and other will have fun kicking them and destroy them. That’s the truth of this game, ain’t it?
It’s sad that pve is not protected from these situations, really sad!
Accept my apologies too, i am a bit jumpy in this topic and i shouldn’t.
Thank you for your patience, it’s really appreciated, happy Easter m8 .
Just a statement from me and not invitation of a possible discussion about topic:
It’s only a small consolation, but I had a player like that on my official home server.
It was definitely luck when I happened to see the ■■■■■■■ doing it with another player’s base. I immediately activated video recording, confronted the player in global chat at the same time (without becoming abusive), and even took screenshots on Steam - just to be on the safe side. After more than a week, the player/account was never seen online on my official home server again.
Another player on the same PvE-C server had taken revenge on me by purge pulling because I had killed him normally during PvP time. In that case, after I killed him, next day, large parts of one of my clan’s outposts were destroyed by a purge. I confronted the player in question with the accusation of possible purge pulling and threatened to report him. Fortunately, I had the solidarity of the majority of the active players on my server, who repeated my threat to him in global chat. Afterward, he apologized, and it never happened again from his site.
In my opinion, it’s important that the core of players on an official server stick together in such situations, take a proactive stance against cheaters and glitch users in the global chat, and actually report violations consistently … Ten reports from ten different players on an official server about an incorrect player probably make a real difference than if someone sends a complaint complete alone. Otherwise, I fear it will be difficult to achieve anything against them, especially if no looting player names appear during or directly after a purge in the log - but I hope the problem with these spoilsports will be resolved asap for you and the others on your server.
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