PVP players really should consider private servers on PC

Maybe because FC actually have people that get payed to keep the game running?

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Do you mean game or server? The game itself is absolutely running just fine. All this recent screaming and crying has to do with servers. Do not conflate the two. As the point of this post says, if you disagree with how officials are run, set up or join a private more aligned with how you want to play.

The multiplayer game doesn’t run without the servers and the servers doesn’t run without the game, so it doesn’t matter.

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That’s odd, I seem to have a singleplayer button on my main menu

Private servers run just fine, and fc doesn’t have to spend resources and manpower micromanaging them.

Yeah, That’s a mistake I think there Mr. Barnes. Pretty much every uber-successful and long lasting on-line PvP game on the planet allows for private servers with and without mods - From Quake to Warzone
 The only one’s that don’t are the central server MMOs out there. And some of them go down after awhile forcing people to legally or illegally make their own servers anyway.

Multiplayer runs on private servers and as I said, I’m not advocating shutting down officials. I’m saying that people’s pvp desires are addressable already thru private servers if they find officials objectionable. Its all a question of what’s most important; that it have the features you want or that it be freely provided with anyone random on it.

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I LOVE @Barnes. I do understand his point of view and respect it. Yet, in this I am 100% for privates when we speak about pvp. I won’t speak about mods, I am a Playstation player, but I will speak for possibilities of the game. Comparing official pvp and private, I can say what I said in the past. Official pvp is just a pilot for how the game could be, a standard suggestion. Not that it is bad or good, this is totally objective. And I can surely understand “Why” a player plays official. I my self play pve only in officials, for the same reasons I guess. But
 The things “amateurs” have done in privates, was an experience of a lifetime for me and I cannot thank them enough. Unfortunately however toxic players are everywhere, everywhere
 and eventually they arrive even in the best servers too. It is really unfair, again, that private admins cannot “report” these players so they will be warned from the company. In any case, this is for another topic I guess, sorry.
@darthphysicist, for what is worth
 And because I don’t have here the admins that I met in this game and I admire, THANK YOU.

Another point that Barnes is right, is that it is not so easy to find a good private server, but I will mention however that @Oduda was lucky enough to play in very good servers the most.
Maybe it is a bit our prejudice too that we cannot find good privates 
 Who knows.

Edit
 Sorry guys I totally forget, best wishes for your Easter

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What’s odd? That’s why I wrote multiplayer.

I doubt the servers can run without the game


But this is crazy derailing.

People expect FC to do the heavy lifting because FC is getting paid to do it.

I’m just tired since its goes round and round in circles anymore. Play, don’t play. I lost the motivation anymore to discuss it. You want to quit? Quit. You want to play? Play. What I have actually come to terms with here is that there are just too many folks that wish to simply be right vs support the right thing and so we get stuck in these circles.

The real truth is the OP’s point. You don’t like officials ran this way
they door is over there. The game can still be played elsewhere. You can decide to move over there and play or not if you don’t like officials. It’s just turned to beating a dead horse like it’s the start of the next zombie plague.

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Yes, and? You’re the one that conflated the two. Did you confuse yourself? Servers run on the game and fc is responsible for working on the game. This does not equate to them being responsible for the servers. Officials are a courtesy given, but not the expectation baseline. It’s a flawed way of looking at it to keep expecting the game to pander to officials and to devalue private servers.

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So using that, Rust is a far better pvp suvival game than Conan, and it has many officials.

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I guess you can just mod (or use server settings) out any changes we get on officials :wink:

It’s kinda funny
 Sounds like privates are great because you can change anything you want, but also we shouldn’t get any changes on officials, because you don’t want to make changes on privates?

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If you want to go there, yes. But rust isn’t the top. Minecraft has zero officials and has sold far more.

As of 2019, rust has sold 9 million copies.
Minecraft is estimated at 200 million. How many privates are there?

Also, minecraft has a 9 and up player base
i know 9 or 10 of nieces and nephews alone play that game. And many dont “pvp” but just run around doing 9 year old things in the game.

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You’re looking at it completely backwards. Privates make the adjustments to the game for their server. You want officials to change the game itself for all servers because you can’t go through the effort of making your own server with the changes you want.

Almost as if a game can appeal to more than one demographic? CE isn’t a pvp-focused game. It’s a survival game with pvp. You’re basing yourself on an incorrect assumption

Please understand I have a different viewpoint of PS4 versus PC. As a former Console player, I really respect the community, and collegial viewpoints the Console brings. If I were still playing PS4, I would consider a friend-run server. The reasons are abundant, and not the least of which – we care about our Gamertags and don’t want them sullied by underhanded behavior.

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I actually highly value @Barnes opinion which is why I’m glad he is commenting. We don’t always agree but we always have respectful disagreements.

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The difference is that players in officials are asking for changes to be made to the base game. That’s work. I’m saying if people want those changes, they can do them now with no work done on FC’s part, and the players can have niche needs without affecting the rest of the player base.

I don’t understand these words. But the client is what we would consider to be “the game” and the client is not running on the servers. They are two different software packages. The servers might even be free - I didn’t check but a lot of companies will release their servers for free so maybe FC too?

We know this server software as “The Dedicated Server” or ConanSandboxServer.exe located in "
\SteamLibrary\SteamApps\common\Conan Exiles Dedicated Server"