The new Yamatai Tavern set Pillow to sit does NOT work

Thank you.

Bro I was waiting for your video before I decided if I was gonna buy or not, and you showed us all the issues with it and I am thankful! Sincerely. Helped me decide not to buy until the issues are addressed and/or fixed.

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I’ve been thinking on this all weekend. The pillow is listed in the Creative Mode build menu under Seating, along with everything else that actually lets you sit.
The promo art is carefully cropped so that you don’t actually see if the characters are sitting on them or not. I’m guessing, not. It appears in hindsight that those sample characters are all likely players, not NPCs.

There are three possibilities:
1 - It is intended to act as a seat for NPCs, and some bug or mistake happened that is currently preventing it from functioning in this role.
2 - It is intended to act as a seat for NPCs, but the coding for this was not finished in the correct time frame, and the decision was made to release this pack in an unfinished form and address it in a hotfix later.
3 - It was never intended to act as a seat for NPCs, but instead to be purely decorative. This treads VERY close to false and/or misleading advertising, given the promotional art.

I would be curious from Funcom which of these is what the situation is. However, I don’t expect them to say anything, and this absence of communication speaks loudly to me.

Yeah, it’d be really nice if they’d at least acknowledge this. Maybe a fix when they do a mid January patch but without even a report received tag, we’re all just shouting into the void.

Uhm, No 2 would be quite, uhm, misleading, too. If one knows it doesn’t work as a seat, it doesn’t matter if that’s due to a bug, unfinished work or pure malice. One shouldn’t advertise it as a seating then.

The item offered has little description; it doesn’t say “seat” anywhere in the picture. And there might be some idiot somewhere who believes that a false advertisement isn’t false if it only implies something without spelling it out. Luckily, that’s not how the legal system works (“No, Sir, I didn’t steal the car, I just, uhm, borrowed it for an indefinite amount of time.” - “Then I won’t sentence you to do prison time, but to being set free in four years.”).

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I think the description of the pillow (if you click on the item in the bundle) does actually say seat.

I am curious, have the Devs made any official announcements about this either?

Not sure if the devs have - but I got a response after submitting a ticket. They suggested using emotes - but did say their team is analyzing it and said to keep an eye on their social media accounts. I’d wager they’ll update it at some point.

Stand on pillow. Execute kneel, sit cross legged, whatever. Done. If it had a sit socket, you’d be locked into one sit style emote. Same goes for thralls.

Pretty sure most aren’t upset at themselves not being able to. I’m pretty sure many thought they could build a functional tavern using this set and still have thralls visit. These pillows not being actual seats means you have to break the theme to make it functional with the tavern feature.

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Even then its a ‘Tavern set’ which means it shoudl work for the tavern system of the game which means Npcs should come in and sit on those ‘currently useless’ seats right? whats the use of players doing emotes ? it doesnt help with thralls coming in to sit and make the tavern set which was priced at 2457 or so crom coins and to be given such a easy reply and to keep an eye on their social media?.. isnt that how I got duped into buying such an expensive set when it doesnt even work as a tavern set for the tavern system which was mainly introduced for this chapter 3 update and a NEW way to get thralls
 and also they did say in notes that it could open up posibilities for newer quest line further along the way where npcs might even give quests etc etc
 some future posibilities type of stuff lol.
But thank you minion for sharing this info. I really do hope they make it work as a seat and to work as the tavern system should work in game - to bring in thralls for us and create an immersive environment and also to to function as any other seat and let players and NPCs to be able to sit on it . All I just want it for it to work the way its supposed to
 as a tavern set for a tavern system of this chapter 3 age of war update.
Thanks again for shairng the info @MINIONJCR :smile:

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P.S.
By the way I got the same reply from same mail id. to keep an eye on social media and sorry and thanks for understanding. Idk what to understand myself yet from all this and they are thankful for our understanding already without us even saying hehehe
 Oh well
 I hope they fix even the rhino silent legion saddle which clips through legs of the seated player on top of the silent legion saddle on rhino too while they’re at it with this seat fix for the yamatai tavern set. Only time will tell now I guess
 Im gonna wait and see what happens
 their fix towards this will decide things going forward with my purhcases I guess
 :smile:

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I feel scammed after buying this on the bazaar


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you should know better,


next time wait for a review of the things being offered in the bazaar,

you can also try your luck and request a refund! (use zendesk)

i will never buy anything unless i see the review first.

reason? funcom loves to bring Broken stuff in the bazaar, or stuff that does not work correctly. so BEWARE , and wait for reviews.

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so true
 i should have waited but i got slightly eager :slight_smile:

I think it’s interesting that the npc sitting feature was just added and already it’s expected to just exist. I’m not making a judgement on anyone who expects this, I just think it’s interesting that brand new feature seems so obvious that it not existing seems weird to a player.

That said, they probably meant for it to be sat on via emote. All normal thralls and players can sit on these via emote. The new seating feature is brand new and they mentioned it doesn’t exist for all chairs yet. Will it exist for these? Was it ever meant for these to function that way? Who knows, but with enough player feedback I’m sure it will get added to the long list of things they don’t have the man power to complete.

Were I to offer one more probably reason for the absence I would guess the set was created before the tavern system was implemented and this bundle was created to help sell the Yamatai bar, which would explain the sit via emote functionality.

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no, simply no, if it is not going to work as it is supposed to , it either needs to be clarified in the description, or simply make it work as it should, the tavern system is meant to have tables , and chairs (pillows in this case) that should work as places to sit, or to have patrons to use it that way, they copuld have done tall tables and use chairs, but instead they promoted the pillows,.

deja vu with the latrine all over again.

otherwise why pay 2.5k crom coins?

also, ANYTHING BEING SOLD at the bazaar should BE WITHOUT BUGS


heck you can even place the tavern to the wall, there is a big gap, (yes there is a workaround). but we as player should not be just using workaround for something that expensive.

the bar feature was probably planned when we were still in chapter 1 of age of sorcery. so NO to that


what we are seeing is the lack of testing and funcom rushing stuff that is NOT ready
 it almost feel they dont care as long as it is pushed out.

same happened with the camel, with the combat changes, with the dungeon set part 2. yamatai pillows, with the fortress (anyone doing it can notice it is not finished , and has a ton of performance problems)

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Honestly you should have known better unless you’re new to the game. Don’t expect anything you purchase to work.

The vast majority of what you said is speculative. We don’t know when they started working on the tavern system and they didn’t know when it would be ready for implementation. So to say any date is pointless. We know it wasn’t initially previewed in any dev stream until the last one.

The Yamatai bar does indeed have seating and functions identical to all other bars in the game minus the bear cubby.

The initial promo pictures of the set are using normal pillows with emote seating and not the new ones.

So we can’t say that these new pillows were intended to be sat on by bar patrons. In fact we have official word in this thread they were intended to be sat on by the normal means, emote.

Pricewise can we say that this is put of line with other prices on the bazaar? Can we say that there is a premium being charged due to the inclusion of these pillows?

No we can’t.

We can only conclude that a lot players thought it would have patron seating and that the devs didn’t intend it to. Does that mean they won’t change it? We can only guess.

As for the unfinished siege, we were told prior to launch that it wasn’t finished. That it had performance issues and so they didn’t want to make those worse with decorations until they solved those. That is why they added a fourth chapter to each age.

You inclusion of that part as a reply to me seems to imply that I somehow disagreed with it or anything in my initial text. If you can’t see beyond your strawman you can not effect change the way you want it.

It’s clear the dev team is understaffed and that funcom won’t budge until Dune is completed. So I think it would be better to be more concise and constructive with our feedback, offer them solutions and grievances and leave out the emotion and speculation.

Being confrontational or reactionary simply buries your most valuable and fully justified points under the cloud of “he’s just venting”, if it is read at all.

IF UNFINISHED,. DO NOT PUSH IT TO PUBLIC. not that hard is it? there is no need to rush things if not ready, imagine how bad t his will go for some old console players, i lag and have a rgood PC.

dennis has said , that they are working on stuff way forward the current build. (not once but several times)

why not put that in the description? too many people got angry with it, remember the latrine?

we cant say that it was NOT meant for that either, again if was intended it needs to be said on the description,

things have gone more expensive
 if you compare with the prices we saw in chapter 1 age of sorcery.

not my monkey not my circus, I DONT CARE if they are understaffed, not my problem, its theirs, i dont care about dune either, so this sentence you wrote also falls into speculative land.

apologies if i am not a conformist.

please answer this :

  1. why did they push a different build than the one that was in testive? why did they not fix the bugs that was reported there (testlive)?

  2. why i cant train camels as mounts and use them in the game ? (issues reported in testlive way before they launched the update, new mount was suppsoed to be part of the new features added to the game.

  3. why the furlon dungeon set , has missing pieces, in a lot of cases the walls do not align well? with holes, forcing people to keep doing work arounds for something that should be in PERFECT state? as it was behind a paywall ?

  4. why does the yamatai pillows do not work as seats when it is clearly shown in the description (it says : “a firm pillow that is commonly sat upon” ??? if this was not intended, mark it as a regular non funcional decoration, (there are pillows in the game that i could use it as the ones shown as places to sit using the emotes, (the one that looks good , is behind a paywall too)

  5. why do they launched a fortress that was incomplete and not ready, ? with so many performance issues?

  6. why did they pushed combat changes without even sending it to testlive? changes that i believe no one requested?

  7. why i got jailed for a couple days from playing the game with a negative crom coin? (who tested this “feature”? i had to pay the equivalent of 8.600 crom coins to allow me get back into the game? yes i got the crom coins reinbursed, regardless they really screw things up with the update.

  8. it tooks 24 hours for @Xevyr to fix some of the issues, yet we all have to wait a full month to get something that should have been working since day 1.

9, who came with the bright idea of launching a major chapter change just before the holidays? they should have postpone it to mid january. to have something more polished.

they are making a ton of money
 yet we still have all kind of problems
 why? understaffed? hire more. (not too hard) when this is the only game t hey are making money from. they should be more careful with their income.

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