This Game is a Joke

What did you say that got you 11 upvotes and why is it so easy to censor people on these forums?

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BG3, by a non AAA dev, will have hours of polished gameplay. The fact we are in year 5 + and CE still doesnt know if it wants to be a pve game, a builder game, a pvp game, an adventure game is my biggest issue. It has sooooo many great parts, but no one constructing anything with any depth using those parts…

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To quote Conan from the epic 1984 movie … CONAN!!! What is best in life!!?

Conan: Ummm … I don’t know!

That is what Conan said … right? Ummm… I don’t know.

Sorry guys … I only log on and play or check forums once or twice a week … I am not a savy thread post person … I dont even play computer games much … I just used to read books … and that is why I am here … Conan Literature. … If I seem ignorant about Forums and posts … I am … I am old school … back when we settled things face to face …

Things are different now …

To Quote Conan … “Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.”

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It’s not. Forums users can flag forum posts and if there are enough flags, those posts get hidden. The author of the post can then edit it or leave it as it is until a forum moderator decides whether to restore it or delete it. That’s the short explanation. You can read the long explanation here if you’re interested.

That’s the “how”. As for why people flag posts, it’s because it shouldn’t be too hard to disagree with each other or with Funcom without resorting to shіtty personal attacks and name-calling. And indeed, it’s not too hard for most of us. I’m not shy about posting criticism of how Funcom keeps screwіng up this game and I don’t get “censored” for it, along with a ton with other people.

But every now and then you get someone with the schoolyard bully mentality who thinks that insults like this are really funny and smart:

That’s from the dude who has to keep creating sock puppet accounts because he’s never had a single valuable thing to contribute to the discussion. And when his verbal excrement gets cleaned up from these forums, he then comes crying about how he’s getting censored.

Long story short, if you can keep it civil, you most likely won’t get flagged. And if you do get flagged despite that, you can edit your post to reword it and it gets unhidden. Nine times out of ten, that’s the end of that and everyone’s happy. Occasionally, however, someone abuses the flagging feature and the mods might get involved to restore your post and deal with the false flaggers.

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It’s worth noting that BG3 had thousands and thousands of playtesters who paid for the right to playtest the game for over three years. The deal was sold to them under the name “Early Access”.

Conan Exiles’s public beta these days attracts a very small handful of players.

You’re kinda correct here, but it’s worth noting that BG3 is a very focused game, concept-wise. It’s an adventure RPG with a main plot and some (well, many) optional side branches. It’s a concept that has existed since at least the 1980s in video games, and longer in tabletop RPGs.

A survival sandbox game tries to do everything at once. It’s a very ambitious concept, and it’s surprising Conan Exiles manages to do it as well as it does. Sure, it has its bugs and balance problems, but for the most part, as you said, it has so many great elements. But what it does not have is a goal. The game has no “win condition” as games usually do. Figuring out what to do is up to the players, and that pretty much turns into “spend time doing stuff and wonder if there was any point in all that”.

This boils down to the psychological concepts of “experiencing self” and “remembering self”. The experiencing self (ie. who we are while playing the game) can be enjoying the moment and having fun, making playing the game worthwhile and entertaining, despite problems or bugs. But then we go to sleep and the next morning, the remembering self remembers that thrall that fell through the mesh, and that floor hatch that mysteriously decayed without warning.

There have been some studies of people doing what they like to do, and constantly analyzing and taking notes on how they’re feeling, and compare it to people who don’t do this but only remember the experience afterwards. The differences are significant.

The point if this long-winded sidetrack was that while playing, we can enjoy ourselves, but afterwards we feel we’re no closer to achieving anything because there is no final objective. Or rather, there is completing the keystone, but most things we do in the game are completely irrelevant to that goal. We veteran players know that the game’s “main quest” can be completed in a few hours without building anything.

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Let’s all remember that as long as we avoid being insulting (whether using insults or not) and overly dramatic, things are mostly fine in the realm of internet discussion :eyes:
Had to highlight this. It’s not hard to remember, three words: “Keep it civil.”

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I teach basic computer and internet skills for the unemployed. I don’t use social media so if they have questions about Facebook or such, I tell them I have only one piece of advice everyone should follow:
Don’t be a dick.

You can get pretty far with just that.

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Thousands of playtesters… erm what do you think we have been all these years? and CE did have an EA period, thousands of testers, I have seen tons and tons of valid feedback entirely ignored (alongside very easy bug fixes that go unchecked for years)

I am not a fan of BSG3, either after 40hrs I do not consider it to be a good game which I realize is an unpopular opinion, but that is another matter entirely, their ethos and consistency is on point.

I think Biggcane55 is most right though on it not knowing what it wants to be, its been in a complete perpetual identity crises and the development lacks a developmental vision, it doesn’t matter how much air you have in your sails if you don’t know your direction.

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I spoke the truth, that’s why I got upvotes. The truth is painful, that’s why my post was hidden.

This game has the potential to be a masterpiece. Sadly, although the dev team has done a little bit of commendable work over the 3 years I have been playing, by and large their poor decision making and abysmally incompetent implementation has made the game generally worse over time.

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Because we feel like we are neither appreciated nor listened to.

No.

Whomever it is that needs to hear this, as in the gaming world there exist capable heroes who are larger and more skilled than you, and they’re behind a cereal box at the grocery, or at the next table in the bodega, or two rows back in the theater. Violence is not acceptable, and there are plenty who resist its forms with appropriate counter-actions.

In Conan Exiles, we usually refer to these kinds of threatening players as “fist shakers,” cursing the sky for their existence. PvP in this game teaches one so much about Humanity.

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rofl

Conan had early access too. TWICE (2017 and Siptah). And it STILL is an unpolished mess…

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Having gone through it, like you, I reject the analysis that the map would be limited to the desert. We had a bona fide Expansion and Wipe, not to mention the upheaval of the Climbing Patch itself.

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“If violence doesn’t solve anything, it’s because you didn’t hit hard enough.” - Probably an old Chuck Norris joke :rofl: :notlikethis:

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I think when people use sandbox game for CE, it gives a free pass to poorly roadmapped mechanics and content. A good sandbox will have sand, tools, and goal of building a sand “castle”. Sometimes CE seems to be just javing stuff randomly added or tweaked with no regard to the synergy of the sand, tools, and goal.

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Yes, it teaches civility is a mask people put on to hide their true nature. The only thing that keeps people civil is fear of being shunned by the community if they are not. Where as some of us do not fear that and are just civil by nature; I didn’t say nice.

Isn’t polished Conan kind of a contradiction? But ya, game this old that has been through so many iterations shouldn’t have a couple dozen legacy bugs.

We still need that age of Quality of life.

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Well said. The fact that they add things then nerf them to oblivion is evidence of this.

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Tbh the game is not a joke. It’s probably one of the better games I have ever played. It’s the people who are running the game who are a joke. They run this ….game…like some kind of fascist HOA. I truly hope, just from spite alone, that Dune fails and they go belly up coz they deserve it. I do hope all their honest hard working employees find gainful employment but as for the fascist regime at the top of the ladder I hope they taste bitter defeat. Period.

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Conan Exiles: Age of Completion Coming out sometime before year 30XX.

Not always. It’s up to the individual gamer on what they feel is more important when the confront the truth of ‘its only a game’

You can take that since it’s only a game, I can do whatever I want because it’s not real…

Or you can take it as my moral character is a natural part of who I am and this game is not important enough to dare question it.

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