With the new building and crafting system, not only have we lost the ability to trade decorations with other players, but the loot from NPCs and crates no longer includes placeable items

This is bad. I can’t craft a chair and give it to another player. You can’t loot candles from the NPCs anymore. This was so nice feature to be able to loot all these mugs and plates and other decorations and decorate your house with it. Now every placeable needs to be crafted. Buy you. Exclusively. And if you don’t invest your skill points into decorations, then even your friends and clan mates who do won’t be able to help you.

This is bad, Funcom.
This damages the RolePlay community.
This damages the atmosphere.
This damages fun (I never crafted candles, but I loved decorating my base with candles from dead NPCs)
Also, this causes bugs. Figurines from Isle of Siptah are useless now. You can’t place them, because you can’t place an item outside of building menu. Above that, you can’t even pick those figurines up. They simply never appear in your inventory.

THIS NEEDS TO BE RECONSIDERED

Bring back the ability to pick up an item, store it, and place it back from your inventory.
Bring decorations back into the loot table
Bring back the ability to trade decorative items with other players

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Sorry but this one is never happening.

If you can trade BP items, it damages profits. You can craft stuff and give it away, they never have to do the Battle Pass, they have you for that.

Same with the Bazaar. You’re buying the ability to craft the stuff.
So you can give them to everyone on your server. No reason to buy it.

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I removed this remark about BP and Bazaar from the post to not distract people from what this really is about.

Yes you can

Yes you can

No they don’t

You still can

Yes you can

Wrong

A bug, not related to the rest of your percieved problems.

I’m not sure where you got any of this information from, but you’re dead wrong on many accounts

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Just as @Jimbo noted, the post contains a lot of false information.
I literally picked up bowls and jugs from dead cimmerian NPCs 30 Minutes ago and shared some decorative nemedian items (which I took from one of my chests!) with another server peep two hours ago.

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Iv been throwing candles, furniture, jars and clothing into my dismantle bench like crazy after 3.0 cause I keep looting them from all the thralls that iv been killing (challenges).

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I haven’t even bothered looting them. I just jacked my damage up to 10, spawn 10 or so in a little arena, let my follower butcher them and leave the corpses where they fall. But I’ve seen any number of placeable items in their loot.

Just thought about this years ago I sold probably 5000 aquolonian foundations and other building bits to someone who did not have dlc for it, so he could build a cathedral higher than mountains around frost temple. If he still played which i doubt, would his building just collapse now and would be compensated in mats or what?

no this is dull… NO
i owe skin weapons, i make them for clan members, why the geck cant they use it?
i can do with my stuff all i want (even give it to others)
about building pieces im totally calm with that, but not with armor\weapons, whats the point to play with mates if we cannot share cool loot?

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“… the loot from NPCs and crates no longer includes placeable items

Oh thank gawd!!!

Good on FC for that one!!! Junk clutter removal = Massive W


" we lost the ability to trade decorations with other players"

Should be rephrased: “Lost the ability to steal from FC!” Yeah, they gave us 4 years of being mellow and cool to their extreme detriment. And now people think it’s just normal to rip them off. LOL

Oh come on. You can argue it was uncommonly generous, I’d even agree with you - though that generosity was one of the things I liked about the old Funcom.

But “stealing”? We’re always deriding people for being hyperbolic in their criticism but this is a statement equal in its absurdity to the most screeching complainers.

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Okay, probably I was terribly unlucky with loot so far and didn’t find anything besides resources and consumables.

But how then you share a crafted placeable with another player? Whenever I try to pick up a placeable that I crafted it dismantles and gives me back the mats

I don’t agree. Sure, it’s not like I’ve never stolen but yeah, if you take something that isn’t yours, that’s theft - damn straight! If you distribute software or any other digital assets you don’t have the right to, that’s piracy - no question! You can poo-poo it cuz it’s apparently common and low in value but it is what it is. Things really are that simple.

I don’t give a crap myself but it’s pretty bizarre to read people begging for and recommending that Funcom approve and condone it themselves. :crazy_face:

I don’t support software piracy at all, and I don’t appreciate the implication that I do. Sharing DLC items, something which was explicitly allowed by the game is nothing like that in any case. Neither is asking for that functionality back in any way wrong, even though I think there’s zero chance of that happening.

This almost feels like feeding the trolls.

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No one accused anyone specifically, so no need to make this all about you. So, by your logic it’s OK to distribute copies of (c) software because your machine allows you to do so? LOL. And yes, explicitly asking those in charge to remove the DRM or other prohibiting mechanisms for the purpose of distributing what you don’t have the right to distribute is asking that person to condone your piracy!

Same with a store too. Just because the candy bar is out in the open and low value doesn’t make it legal to take without paying for it.

If you really dunno how copywrite law works to this absurd extent, I can’t help you. Maybe have your mom explain it to you or something. When you buy the DLC, do you think you own it outright - and can sell it, give it or it’s assets away to others? Just curious.

Maybe take the time to read those things you’re always just blindly agreeing to out of hand:

Yup! That’s how it’s supposed to work!

You replied to my post, saying:

So yeah, I’d say you implied it. Which is what I wrote you did, and I didn’t appreciate.

Still claiming you’re not “accusing” me of anything? And no, not “my machine.” The actual game allowed it, so of course it’s alright to do so. That sharing DLC items ingame equals software piracy is perhaps the most ludicrous argument I’ve seen in this whole debacle.

No. Asking for the ability to share content is nothing like that. There is no piracy here, condoned or otherwise.

No one is taking anything without paying for it.

This has nothing at all to do with copyright law. Cracking the game client and distributing DLC items through a mod - now that would be piracy. This is nothing like that. But asking for the game creators to reinstate functionality they removed is simply a request. Which Funcom can and of course will deny (or perhaps more likely, ignore, which comes to the same thing).

Ironic, so thank you for the laugh.

At this point I really have to assume you’re trolling, and I thought you were better than this.

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It’s almost like you want me to accuse you. I will if you would like, I no qualms with that. But how about just accepting that I know my own intentions - and they are as stated - not accusing you personally?

Sounds like you need to read the EULA again yourself!


Think about what you’re saying. It doesn’t even sound right. Essentially you’re suggesting that it would be OK and desirable if just one person bought all the DLCs and then manufactured DLC items for everyone on the server.

And that’s illegal according to the EULA.

No. For one thing, doing what the game client explicitly and knowingly allows, through its normal and unmodified interface does not and cannot constitute piracy. For another, an EULA does not determine what piracy is, either. An EULA is not law, and does not allow a company to do more than terminate their business relationship with you if you break it. Not, I apparently need to add, that I condone breaking the EULA, either.

Funcom is well within their rights to remove the ability to share items produced by a DLC unlock (edit: as long as said sharing was not an advertised feature - it becomes murkier if it were).

Users are well within their right to have done so until that functionality was removed.

Users are well within their rights to ask for the functionality back, and…

Funcom are well within theirs to deny that request.

None of that has anything to do with piracy.

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I don’t know what you mean with ‘ok’. Legal? Yes, it would be legal, assuming they were just using ingame functions. Of course that’s no longer possible. Moral? Questionable, at best. Sharing with your friend/clanmate in a shared build is different from sharing with a whole server, or advertising that fact. Desirable? Certainly not.

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