OK since you are too busy to answer to my simple questions, I will give you my opinion, but please don’t bother to answer now, because I ’ ll be to busy too.
The game is very interesting, so interesting that I play it non stop for almost 2 years now. Do know that in this forum, I am just one year and there are a lot of people here that play the game from day one.
The last 2 years we had a lot of changes and most of them was some players wishes
. Ofcurce when each change arrived was not always popular, especially the dodge change.
The last several months however in consoles we have no changes at all, good and bad at the same time.
The only boss that can 2 or 3 shot you is the fourth skeleton in khari dungeon and the Arena champion, so either you haven’t ever play solo bosses, either you wanted to put sause to your statement, please don’t ever forget that you expose your self to experienced players, thank you.
I would really love the idea my champion to be the strongest champion, still, neither the tower or the officer or the queen or the simple ■■■■ win the chess match, but the brain of the winner.
It is a prize to have hero thralls under your dominion, you are the leader the king. leaders are strongest in the world of animals, not in our world. We know that brains, bravery and determination is the combine of the leader. It takes a lot of bravery and determination to survive first, to go alone through the wild life and sandstorms in a village, kill them all and capture their leader. Before this you farm for hours materials and knowledge to fix a mechanism that will create this leader to your faithful companion. This is a prize my friend and you deserve it, but don’t take it for granted, lava is always there to take it from you before you even realize it, welcome to conan exiles.
Any source? You mean just setting about thrall damage?
That’s not enough to fix issue with thralls and what about official servers that will run on default settings?
Step in right direction would be to rebalance thralls: Instead of having OP thrall with a lot hp / dmg they could divide it to choose one:
Thrall with a lot of armor, hp with low dmg used for pve
Thrall with huge damage but low hp mostly used for pvp
People don’t look for explanation why it’s like that in lore - people want to have working game thats actually challenging instead of just be boring clicker. Right now pve / singleplayer is pointless as hardest part right now is taking thrall, after that you can just do any dungeon / content effortlessly with thrall doing all work.
I am just referring to the fact that consoles are now 3-4 months behind, and it only grows more and more as they focus on new patch after new patch for pc.
people would just use a high HP thrall to tank, while they nuke the high damage thrall down… or use arrows…
I don’t understand what You mean.
You suggested;
If you bring huge damage thrall to pvp, I will bring high armor/HP thrall
My thrall will tank your thrall, while I kill your thrall…
- New server setting to control the amount of damage Thralls do to players. It can be found under Server Settings - Combat, or added manually to ServerSettings.ini (
ThrallDamageToPlayersMultiplier).
My personal speculation, pvp players will get what they were asking for and the thralls will hit like wet noodles in pvp as of next patch. Time will tell whether it turn out to be true ![]()
That’s not enought to fix the issues with it.
Also no one wan’t thralls to be usueless - just dont be OP like they are right now - its called balance.
If I bring damage thrall and You bring def thrall i rather focus on You instead of fighting thrall vs thrall…
And who said my thrall would lose? They could balanced it that well so both will be at same level (one is high damage and low def, and vice versa, do your math), besides that you forgot that im still there aswell? I would focus attacks on you along with my thrall and in that case you would be in disadventage as we would do more damage to you and maybe score a kill? I think it should be balanced in that case so both of us have fair fight.
Thralls are easy to avoid… You will be a bigger problem, but combined we will do more damage to your thrall than your thrall do damage to mine. Actually your thrall will do zero damage to mine if you make it focus on me.
Another thing. Pretty much every pvp’er has asked for lower thrall damage for ages. Why would they want them to have higher damage again?
Also, in most thrall tests I’ve seen on youtube, survivability is king.
I never said i think they should increase thrall damage, i said decrase it but keep some a bit higher damage thrall as well, not only bearer like damage but also A BIT higher possible in cost of survability.
Yeah thralls are easy to avoid but you are not guaranteed to avoid all of it. For moment you act like thralls does not exist and can’t hit players at all. Of course You gonna avoid most of it but you may get hit once or twice especially when you gonna be forced to avoid my attacks, and i rather get you hit by a bit stronger thrall also don’t minding it will die faster as it’s resource like gear, consumables, pets or anything in this game. In a nutshell: Thralls damage should be nerfed but they could left some options for offensive low def thralls (still a bit lower damage than they do now but a bit higher than bearer which is 0.4 dmg multiplier)
Yes its player vs player but PVP in Conan is Player vs player offline lol , you wine about thralls but you all can leave them home, have some honor and go and defend by yourselves if you do not like thralls the way they are, people were all winey thralls are to weak, so they buffed them, then it was on they are to strong so they nerfed them now its something else, if you do not like thralls do not use them, if you think they are too over powered do not use them.
Thinking your way of playing is better then others is unfair and in the end the thralls will be worth less to everyone as no one can make up their mind how they other people thralls to be.
Has no one gotten sick of this back and forth conversation that gets no one anywhere. Why not let people who like thralls just use them and those of you who do not , well easy fix, do not take them or only use the weak level 1 thralls and we all be happy or as happy as we can be with broken A.I. that does not work, or thralls who never pull a weapon. Let people play the way they want, its easy to not use thralls just do not use them.
I am never going to take the playstyle of pressing attack on a follower and watching it solo a boss seriously. Thralls and pets should NEVER have been buffed to the point where people even could imagine that is a valid playstyle. That is definitely a time where I would say Funcom utterly and totally F—'d up on, screwed the pooch, dropped the ball, were hopefully drunk and high…

Who brings a knife to a gunfight?
If your enemy uses thralls you’re gonna use thralls no matter if you like them or not.
Actually people was complaining they were too strong before they got levels and then they buffed them anyway, but yeah…
I don’t think it’s even possible to hit a sweet spot where (close to) everybody likes them.
They’re always gonna hit too hard for pvp or too weak for pve… Have too many hitpoints or die too fast.
Did You even played PvP server once? You really think your opponent will keep thrall to have fair fight with You? People will literally do EVERYTHING to win battle / war so your idea is just stupid.
Just don’t use them - yeah and put yourself on disadventage / lose most of the time - that argument is just stupid. Stop making yoursefl a fool.
Yes im already sick of that kind of conversation. “don’t use it if you don’t like it” - You can’t say that to PvP players, maybe if You play PvE it’s fine as you don’t have to fight vs another player that WILL use anything to have adventage.
This is so true.
I don’t even carry a weapon sometimes because my damage as a player is irrelevant. But if thralls were simply nerfed then a lot of content would be too difficult for solo or even duo players to ever dream of completing.
Yet, in pve I don’t really mind having my pokemon fight for me… but in pvp it’s a bit disappointing. CE pvp doesn’t get my heart racing like other games where the fight relies on my skill as a player. That’s both good and bad, it makes the game chill and relaxing but less exciting and meaningful.
There is also something funny about having a slave who could just turn around and 1 shot you and be free. 8)
Idk if the player needs to be stronger, I think all humans should be in the same bracket. And if thralls and players had equal stats then players would win a fight vs. a thrall because our movement is smarter, yes?
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tsk. Can’t help but think it doesn’t matter. OP’s good suggestion post will fade away and funcom will keep working on those DLCs for the quick cash.
Unfortunately it’s this mentality, the use of every advantage, that leads some people to cheat. Whatever happened to having fun being important than winning?
Besides losing helps improve skills that you might not otherwise improve. ![]()
Im fine with using every tool ingame to be competetive, of course everyone else will use it - that’s called fair pvp. But when cheats comes to play it’s gamebreaking and that’s why i dropped it until they fix game.
About thrall one shotting people… Let’s not forget there’s also exploit (pork) that can make thralls so strong it will one shot anything in game including other players.