6 months later comes the guy to the forum to defend his
twelve castles,
jajajajajajajaja
What I said was still on topic, as that is the exact reason you proposed the idea, it’s your supposed solution to foundation spam, you claim to be looking at the bigger picture, yet in reality, you’re only seeing how this limit would affect you and you alone.
You do realise how difficult it would be set a configuration setting just to limit foundations, right? Limiting building pieces in general would be easier to code, but way too restrictive.
You think this isn’t being insulting? Also, yes, you were being insulting, saying people are thinking with “limitation of ideas” is to imply limited intelligence or close-mindedness, which can only ever be insuting. Also, you are deflecting in every single post that disagrees with you, even when they point out the very obvious demerits to your proposal.
I did read your suggestion, and suggesting a half-baked idea that gives the development team very little to work with will go nowhere, you don’t say how the limitation should function, your idea lacks general details, something they would need to base the limitation on.
You clearly do not understand the definition of vague, My issues with your approach to people who disagree with you and the issues I have with your idea have always been clear and to the point. Not to mention, your reply has quite easily proven my point, you look down on anyone who disagrees with you, even if they show why your idea is not a good idea.
While this is true, only going halfway with ideas and then expecting the development team to fill in the blanks won’t do anything either. Your ideas need sufficient information, they need to know what exactly you want limited, because at some points in your posts, you are saying there should be a general building limit (which would be borderline impossible to implement), but in other posts you say a limit on foundations, which is it? Buildings or foundations, pick one, not both.
If it is just foundations you want limited, it is actually possible to make an entire building, even something as huge as a castle without using a single foundation, which would make that limitation totally useless, as players would opt for the other option over foundations if a limit was put in.
I’m playing on another server. So, your answer is just a delusion.
I do like this idea. I’d also consider (if possible) more about the horizontal extension of a base than the vertical one. Since building upwards doesn’t keep anyone from building, punishing players that build towers the moment they want to add another floor would be absurd.
I’d also like to see a Conan-esque twist to Tool Cupboard from Rust, something like the cornerstones mentioned above. In order for your structures to belong to you exclusively, they need to fall into the area of influence of a cornerstone, outside of which, anyone can come and demolish it. You need to protect them from other players, for any player touching your cornerstone gains permissions to build in its area, deny you from doing so, and demolishing anything in it. This way, while a base will be protected so its cornerstones can’t be easily reached, a sandstone line crawling the map would just need a huge amount of them, which in turn would mean you need to protect all of it, or just the cornerstones, thus giving away where they are anyway, letting people know exactly where they need to strike. Other ideas, like “master” and “slave” cornerstones (which is a little difficult to explain, but easy to play with, so I won’t elaborate for now) could be implemented, to further shape the concept.
Add the rest of the ideas to it. Soft cap on master (a few) and slave (a lot more) cornerstones. Beyond that soft cap, cornerstones start siphoning resources. Since cornerstones would claim land in a cylindrical area, building upwards wouldn’t get affected. Solo/private settings would easily allow the tweaking of both caps, how much land is claimed by each type, the amount of resources consumed and at which rate. Everyone’s happy.
You just accuse that its just my problem, without explaining it,
but another people already asked for it in another ways and there are people here agreeding,
so you keep doing the same, just defending ur castles,
and ignoring everything,
because who its gonna affect is you as we can see…
Thats your deduction, not my problem, get offended if u want,
people here offends theirselves easily anyway…
but was not the point, limited ideas is just lack of ideas, not lack of intelligence, but as we can see you dont understand that either right?
so you will be offended anyway…
Not our jobs to judge that,
For who wants 10 castles, yes,
for normal player with 1 big castle or like 2 medium castles and many wheels of pain etc, NO,
thats only bad for who wants to protect themselves for trebuchets,
lets be honest here…
Deflecting? im arguing with real things happening in the servers,
the one creating smoke bombs here is you, not arguing at all and just accusing, if you dont want to create content here, and explaining your ideas, something what you did not until now, then we do not need ur help,
because you are not helping at all
Just repeating yourself here, and i’ll have to repeat my…
“N” hard cap number limit is something very delicated to decide,
players are not ready to make this call, the staff does
also this is just an number, the primary idea is all here and their causes,
Thats your hope for your castles ?
Repeating yourself again, do i really have to repeat it for the fourth time?
players suggesting N hard cap number limitations? really?
Thats why i said Foundations and Cornerstones on the title,
you got offended when i criticized the limitations of ideas but here you are again, do you really think that us or the staff would make an useless limitation letting players build in other ways ??
LOL, thats why it should be studied, thats their work,
im showing the problem and proving it,
lets continue the ridiculous history of 1977 map abusing,
yesterday from the ping there was 9999 for half of the players,
completely unplayable
We have this discussion so much and the only real answer on it is NO.
Not really, and 95% of the denials we’ve seen here
were without nice explanations,
just accusations about personal interests or simple “no’s”…
the only guys who made good denials still agreed with some kind of limitation and / or decays accelerations,
in General Discussion right now we can see an guy reporting map abuse
regarding limitation the new players, 2 players trashed the map in absurd way since 2 months reseting it…
and nothing happened,
you gonna awnser me to bomb all that?
they just shoot wood and stone for it again…
This discussion has been around many times, you are not the first and you will not be the last.
And that’s exactly why I won’t be rephrasing my texts a thousand times.
I can only write no to that.
Otherwise, it should also be prohibited to make natural passages unusable.
Uh, no. Nobody said it’s “just your problem”. But a problem shared by many people can have many different solutions, and not all of them will affect everyone the same way.
Look at it like this: if I lived in a city where there’s too much traffic, that would be a problem shared by all the inhabitants of the city. Let’s suppose that the data shows the most popular car color in the city is gray. So I propose the solution that says no gray cars are allowed on the streets between 11 am and 3 pm. And then when people criticize my solution by saying “it’s easy for you, your car is white”, they’re not saying that they don’t share the problem, they’re saying the solution is not good enough.
Wouldnt be hard saying just “no” a thousand times
jajaja
You dont need exactly say it, just mean itt, will you ignore the content he said??
We already spoke about this, and i would agree to any kind of solution or half-solution that softens the problem, even if they do not solves it
for good (for now at least),
but our community needs to start working at this
you all keep admitting that other players already asked for this,
doesnt it shows that we need some kind of buildings control?
and before someone just awnser me with:
“those map abusers should just be banned”
OK… try to ban anyone, report them and wait MONTHS to it happens,
its an serious problem, deserves an serious solution, not some deflection like that
I didn’t ignore it. He (or she, no idea) is right in what they said. You keep making assumptions about what people meant and attacking them based on those assumptions. You also keep using ad hominems, but claim you’re not being insulting. I’m pretty much done with this thread, it’s a waste of time trying to argue with you.
So the map abusing is just MY problem?
hahahahahahahahhahahah, i really dont need to even argue about that,
well, as we can see, nobody here made good points against the proposal,
its all about:
“the engine cant do it”
“its your problem, not ours”
“it will bring bugs”
“you’re an spoiled brat”
“you insult me”
“you this, you that, and i dont make anything useful against”
…or just “no”
"im a bad guy that argues with everybody who disagrees with me "
like it was ugly and wrong to do ajajjajajajaja
for what reason does exists forums?
we are here to agree and disagree,
making argues and real/practical points here about the subject matter,
are u children?
im just seeing nonsense, and simple no’s here,
seems that just people afraid for their castles
i Agree, its a waste of time of those people coming here just to
accuse me in personal side, instead of adding something to the
subejct matter, agreeing or disagreeing…
BTW its a lie because i proposed an big limit for letting people
build many houses, or one/two big castles, many maps, etc
if you can build that, whats the problem?
do you really need to build all over the map ??
do you really need 10 big castles ??
just because the game have the phrase
“Conquer, Build, Dominate” ?
common sense never happens here…
Your reasoning is not factual and I had refused, whether with a no or a complete statement.
You attacked the people here directly, so don’t be surprised.
Maybe you should read the rules of the forum beforehand.
We all want to work peacefully and together on solutions.
Your suggestion is simply not wanted by 98%.
Start arguing objectively and be kind to other members.
Otherwise we have to vote on whether you can continue to be in the forum.
Another proof of your insulting manner, so there’s a lack of common sense on these forums because people don’t agree with you? No, people have an opinion that opposes yours, nothing more, nothing less.
I can assure you, if you were to run a poll on these forums to see if people are in favour of any sort of limitation, the vast majority of players will be vehemently opposed to it. There was an uproar against the limit on pets and thralls, so of course any other limitation would be met with the same opposition.
There is hardly any discourse here, just posted opinions. What I did was stating arguments against. My main argument being that few loud people are likely to ruin in for the moderate majority.
And no, I would view engaging with a game forum to the extend that you seem to do as a waste of my time and just to be clear: I am not trying to offend you by saying that. So you are right to some extend, I dont care enough anymore for longer discussions.
No. Refusing to understand other people’s point is your problem. As CodeMage demonstrated with a very good analogy, the problem exists for many people. It’s the solution you suggest that many people don’t agree with.
People may not have a better idea right now. That doesn’t make their opinions invalid because they can still see that your solution would hurt them. Just because your solution would suit your tastes and playstyle doesn’t make it universally agreeable.
I don’t know how to solve the problem of map abusing, but I do know that I don’t want to lose my bases. That’s why I don’t want to limit building.
I agree with the OP.
I think people hear “limit” and think they will be reduced to a 10x10 and start panicking. The Op and others aren’t asking for that as we enjoy building fun big bases too, But there’s no logical reason a player or group needs to have a base that covers an entire grid. There’s no reason a player or group needs several giant bases across the map. I can understand people setting up small outposts for thralls, but outside that, there isn’t much of a reason, other than ‘because i can’.
Looking at the pictures linked, what purpose does that base serve? Why does it need to cover the majority of that grid? The circular building in the bottom right of the last picture is literally an area just for a fountain.
Also to point out, what the OP wants won’t even affect the majority of the people saying no, as I said, what’s being asked isn’t trying to prevent people making big badass bases, just limit it so those people who abuse the system, or make excessively large bases across a grid and or map, like shown in the picture.
Oh… you mean a disagreement an “attack”, like i wasnt “attacked”
in this way of thinking… just read above, whatever…
The point here is the staff looking to the problem,
so i dont care, i will keep showing the problem here
Spoke by yourself, because you just critizeced me ten times more then
elaborated your points against the proposal, about the proposal you just said NO
Another proof of you painting me an bad guy,
lack of common sense is exactly this,
because i mention “lack of common sense” things like guys calling
map abusing of “extensions of bases” give the name u want for it,
i dont care
I know that, and i was already expectating that,
and like i said up there… i will just keep showing the problem,
thats some kind of problem that only someone above the players
(the staff) will have to see and handle it, because players are not capable of
judging it, they will all judge thinking on their own bases…
You mean hurt their 2 squares-long bases right? hahahahaha
at least you admit it…
Exactly.
Thats why i said that PLAYERS at not capable to judge this problem,
im just here to show it to the staff, simple
And i will keep showing to everybody this kind of thing…
LOOK THE “EXTENSION OF THE BASE” OF THOSE GUYS…
SO BEAUTIFUL, LOL
(1986 - Godheim)
the same guild that occupies all the square around the Nord’s campings, NW of the map, the same that occupied all the mountains around the Sulphur Lake…
Also yesterday on 1977 saw guys complaining about another guild that they were calling “The Constructors” because they ruined all the south river, they
built an super-focking-wall ALL LONG THE RIVER,
So… You dont know why i told COMMON SENSE,
and you get INSULTED by it?
You must be joking, not possible.
I have criticized you several times? Show me that!
I criticized you in my last statement and your behavior.
You say everyone thinks of 10x10.
I don’t think about it, but even 10,000 is not enough for me. I’ve already been alone for my tower of Babylon
40,000 components used.
And just restricting foundations is not possible because you can only restrict construction objects.
You might want to switch servers when there are so many bad players out there.
Perhaps the players behave this way because you have also insulted them in the chat system.
And yes, your statements are offensive.