What's the news on Tot ! Custom?

I play in servers that work with both mods… even if pippi functions were reduced. After all It was Pippi modder that claimed the mod won’t be updated anymore, generating worries among RPers. No one attacked Pippi for that, was an his decision, but servers started organizing to find something that could substitute. And also I voted against introduction of ToT custom the first time in place of IQoL… then i tested well in another server and changed my mind. Different thing is a sudden and without informations ban.

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Relax guys, I get more attention than I deserve.
Those who were there back then know what I mean and who I am talking about.
There is no reasons for others to get offended.

I’ve been shouted at on Discord and called names, now the same people raid this forum and misbehave again. I am simply pointing to them that they had no sympathy when sides were reversed and it was other players/admins who had trouble.

So this is the reason why… it’s only bickerings among mod supporters.

I am not a tribal mod supporter :joy:

Myself I used RP Redux and Pippi for a long time, I only stopped using RPR when it was converted from a standalone mod to a mod that relies on some other mod + needs third mod for full functionality.

That was not needed at all IMO.

And after that fright with Pippi some time ago I decided to reduce the number of mods and not use any mod that can cause serious issues when I’d have to remove it. So RP Redux turned from 1 mod into 3 mods had to go.
And I hated having 2 chat windows :rofl:

I’m sure Tot is going to find out what was wrong and then will create a new mod to replace the one taken down.

Personally I advise not to use any mods that can put you in this situation in the future. You don’t need all that shit for RP, it’s convenient but you don’t need it.
/Roll command in chat is all we need.

And I think it’s cool that Steam and Funcom keep an eye on mods, this way we won’t have any “nexus” style mods like “nude children of exiled lands”.

This is coming off as a bit sectarian and colors a lot of your previous responses. It makes sense people would want to replace a mod that the developer is ceasing development for. I was previously running Pippi and tot before I realized Tot and Thrall Wars Utilities covered all the bases, with the promise that Tot was being developed to flesh all this out.

Pippi’s lack of new development coupled with my having heard about the whole drama where people were being shadowbanned from the mod made me nervous about using Pippi in the future so I changed. I’m not sure why you are blatantly lying but a sense a lot of resentment. It all comes off as immature on your part and, frankly, no better than the behavior you’re accusing others of.

Pippi was great, but it is being sunsetted by its own author. shrug Meanwhile, other people come along and find their own implementations to solve a problem.

Even if some members are being toxic, this faction nonsense doesn’t benefit anyone. Users of the mod don’t deserve to have their servers tanked because of whatever BS people are up to (and yeah, ANY mod in the mod list getting delisted will tank a server). They also don’t deserve to have troll pretending to represent them as a pretense for more trolling. This is so nuts and you’re a part of that insanity whether you realize it or not.

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Again, any mod that gets removed could tank a server. That’s just how it works. So it makes sense for people to feel this is unfair to them and to want it reversed. Or to feel that if it stands then it puts any mod (and therefore the whole practice of running mods on servers–self-created or not) into question. Just telling people not to use a mod is not a solution. I know you’re better than everyone else because you don’t or whatever (ok buddy), but it goes beyond one mod in this case.

Hell, I’m only waiting for Custom to be unbanned because I want to see if I even want to use it in the first place (I’m a little skeptical because I would like people to have fun customizing characters, but I don’t know if they’ll be able to go crazy and ruin my server’s feel). I don’t think anything that has happened here is good policy for the Funcom or the CE community.

EDIT: And to the point of not needing Tot Custom…I mean, it does allow you to go way beyond what characters can be in the base game or with any other mod. That’s a powerful tool that I think many people (not just PRers) would like to have. You would definitely need something like it if you were going for something different.

Fun thing about tot, is it lets you go crazy with freedom, or limits

at least you admitting to be no better

You know what…understandable. Carry on.

Yeah and I will not sleep tonight because I value your opinion :joy:

Some Trazadone would take care of that.

If you have no real arguments just sit quiet and don’t attack the post author mr mature.

That’s Ms. Mature, thank you very much.

Come on, time for dopamine detox, turn off that PC for a week.

Unfortunately, I’m recovering from surgery and under doctor’s orders not to touch grass. Busting your balls is the most entertainment I’ve had since I ran out of Lower Decks episodes. Literally the only reason I’m even posting here, really.

Something tells me you’re just as unfulfilled at the moment given that you’re responding to everyone in this worthless back and forth that otherwise doesn’t really even concern you (or hell, me).

We don’t know what really happened. I believe it must have been something with copyrighted code if it was really Funcom who acted.

Possibly? Only Funcom and the mod author really know. I’m gonna give Tot the benefit of the doubt though and hope this is a misunderstanding and that, if it is, that it can be resolved. If it is a misunderstanding and it isn’t resolved then well…That’s a shame.

This is what community expects to have in base game, but we got tower defense minigame instead in chapter 2… They should really employ our modders at FC.

No argument from me there.

  • Tuesday 10:
    • Mod was blocked
    • Contacted Steam to inquire why
  • Wednesday 11:
    • Steam responded to inform it was Funcom’s decision
    • Contacted Funcom to inquire why
  • Thursday 12:
    • Funcom responds with accusations but no specifics
    • Response sent
  • Friday 13:
    • Nothing!
  • Saturday 14:
    • Nothing!
  • Sunday 15:
    • Nothing!
  • Monday 16:
    • Nothing!

This is the news, if anybody still wondering.

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thats pretty sexist and people say tot people are the issue

I mean, dude’s trolling. He’s just trying to get your goat and will say whatever to upset you. Best to either play ball or just don’t give him oxygen.

EDT: Sorry about the weird quoting and stuff. I can’t wait until I don’t need to take this Oxy anymore. Ugh.

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Lol some incl the no1 uses ToT and those are the players who just fixed their install manual… the no1 server has over 700 active player each day normaly. Its down to 300ish who bypassed the deletion of ToT on steam

When i was invited to join an RP modded server, to find many things i was dreaming to have in CE, i was suspicious. I was thoughtful to download something that had not the warranty of the author… I would like to don’t need a mod… and that everything could be in base game. But is four years now… and Funcom is a far behind what the modders produced. and about the /Roll i am not much fond of /rolling RP in video game…(sometimes i like, yes) the rolling is for tabletop games, where you don’t have the mechanics… i played both… and in a video game You can RP not needing to roll everytime. More than /roll You need the /me for the e-mote, in video game. At least the RP servers i played. I avoid the full dice RP in CE. But I don’t blame them. It’s their taste. I don’t go to tell them You don’t need the /roll You just need the /me. But both /me and /roll are functions that are not implemented by base game. You need a mod. Pippi was the first. And when his claim worried the RP servers, it is advanced the ToT suite.

Well, don’t jump into RA’s Discord and remotely suggest they might have had something to do with the noise that started all this… or they’ll ban you. I don’t blame them… got to control the narrative that they had zero to do with it or face backlash from the community. Are we really to believe Funcom started this in a vacuum?

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The mod author has requested that rumors like this shouldn’t be spread.

Do you actually care about what he thinks, or are you just trying to stir people up for kicks and giggles?

Pssh. We know the banning has nothing to do with accidental or unauthorized access to Funcom’s assets. We know that other modders are/were involved in these discussions. It’s not rocket science. We don’t have to know what Funcom’s ultimate reasons are to the know someone in the modding community stirred the pot to begin with… and it doesn’t take a lot of guesses to figure out who that most likely is considering rants and tirades made back in April and beyond.

I’m frustrated for Tot and the community. Someone created something arguably superior and was targeted because of that and because he doesn’t always play well with others. Past claims of wrongdoings were hollow and just as much a he said/she said as this go round. I find that petty. I hope the powers that be have enough wisdom and discernment to see beyond that nonsense.

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I didn’t ask why the mod was banned.

I care that Tot is vindicated and the community gets back a gem of a mod. But when it’s announced or shown what kind of edits and concessions Tot has/had to make to his mod(s) on next release, we’ll know exactly who was involved… assuming it gets reinstated.

Its not going to be announced or shown unless the mod author decides to do so. He knows what the accusations are. And he decided to not share it. I don’t blame him for keeping that to himself. This community shows a remarkable lack of restraint on such things. Its also for that reason I’ve decided to keep my own speculation to myself.

The specifics were not released to the public. The mod author stated that they are not going to publish the full contents of Funcom’s response. Please do not spread further misinformation.

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That’s the timeline Tot published himself. The reasons the mod was taken down were communicated, but nothing specific like examples or where it occurs and what to do / how to do it, is what was meant with it.