Game mode: Single player (i don’t play MP) Type of issue: Animations breaks from time to time and the only available fix is death Server type: x Region: x
There was several posts about the “hatchet” issue along the year (here and on steam, all forgotten or locked due to inactivity) when you cannot harvest corpses (you cannot aim downwards and the hatchet miss every time). Is not only the hatchet class, is all the animations - you literally cannot look/aim down. Even using the spear you are limited when attacking (easily missing the target because you cannot proper aim).
Please provide a step-by-step process of how the bug can be reproduced. The more details you provide us with the easier it will be for us to find and fix the bug:
Is hard to determine the trigger, but it never happened in early game (in my case), but mid-late is there after 10-30min of gameplay, with or without mods, and the only available fix is death. My only guess is the skinning knife animation breaking all others after some use (because every time i harvest something a bit later the animations are broken - and this explains why it does not happen in early game) or the constant weapon/tools swap (spear, skinning knife, daggers, pick, hatchet and bow in my case) when farming materials.
And add the knockdown from several beasts in this too, is to many things that can be the cause, and the problem is only when you need the hatchet you actually see the issue - using the spear is only noticeable when you manually aim (i never used the lock feature) on alligators or panthers p.ex. (when you need to hit closer to the ground - if its bugged the spear miss easily).
Hatchet animation:
-(1) broken https://i.imgur.com/IU5arbY.jpg (you can’t aim pass this level, all hits miss the corpses);
-(2) normal https://i.imgur.com/HbRWebm.jpg (didn’t get the hit in the ss, but you can see the character looking down, actually aiming to the ground, what is impossible when bugged);
Only available fix is death (reloading does nothing) - meaning early-late game is basically a suicide simulator if you need to gather something (affecting both basic survival and religions - Hoar-Frost Hatchet is almost impossible to use at some point).
EDIT: Just notice that you can actually log in (no actions needed to make it happen) with this bug “active”. Is just random, does not require any action to happen.
The issue is not weapon/tool related guys. Try to look down holding anything or your bare fists. You cannot - the animation is locked (your character not even look at the point your cursor is, it is constantly looking forward), you simple can’t aim lower than this —> https://i.imgur.com/Gv8WOBC.jpg (i took the screenshot looking down, not aiming at this level (you sink the spear on the ground if the animations is working properly like this one https://i.imgur.com/QxCv1PG.jpg). Notice that both screenshots was taken from the same angle and the character head direction is not the same.
The pickaxe and some other tool/weapons you don’t notice too well because at some level, it functions “normally” (you can hit the stones or hit with some weapon classes) but anything that needs some level of aiming is just useless until you suicide to fix the issue.
Can you test this with first person and compare both states (broken/normal)? Mechanically I have this same issue from time to time. In first person, when broken, the camera is directly stuck within the body and I can look down on my insides: can’t hit anything below me, when harvesting or attacking.
I usually have to relog one or two times to get the proper camera placement/animations that work.
Perhaps this is not germane, but the visual is most noticeable with a bow. Fortunately the arrow goes about where you want it to, but the bow/arrow visual is horizontal. It interferes with target sighting if the recipient is small.
Sniping usually involves looking at a downward angle.
Again, it does not impact performance, just aesthetics.
With a pike, it is a real problem. I frequently have to leap over a croc to get to a lower elevation just to hit him. Otherwise I do significant damage to air
Re-log can fix or cause the issue - in my SP is like 85% bugged and 15% normal when i start the game. First or third person view, does not matter - i tried all possible actions to fix this thing, the only 100% is to kill your character.
The way i’m playing is: log in, equip something and look down. The head does not move? Remove bracelet. I’m starting to doubt this bug “happens”, but instead the game fail to load something when first starting.
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Could anybody confirm that this issue only happens in Offline servers, or does it also occur while playing in online servers?
All posts say something about one weapon, but in fact is all of them. Besides the suicide to fix the issue seems that regenerate the character using the mirror from CharEditLite work too as a better fix.
Just to clarify how old is this bug, let me quote kirag-ig from Steam in 21/Sep/2017: “It’s brand new bug since yesterday patch. You cannot hit up or down with any weapons (…), only straight forward. Relogging is only way I’ve found to fix it.”
This issue has been plaguing me on xbox solo for awhile too.
Especially annoying with a yog cleaver, or fighting crocodiles with most weapons. It didn’t happen right away. I don’t remember when it started.
Re-logging used to solve it but that stopped working with the Halloween event.
Suicide or death is the only thing that fixes it now.
I have not tried starting a character on an online server yet so I can’t compare.
I did try starting a new solo game with another xbox account however. Haven’t encountered the bug on that one yet.
This is really really a very old bug, and still and still coming back to plague players.
It’s tiresome in a way to see it still treatened like it was a new “oh” bug ! Like so many others so. I play the game since very EA, and see some bugs come back in a regular manner. They may dispear with a fix, then show up again with a next patch.
Then still, it needs tons posts to get it fixed again.
I maybe have found the “when” it starts - and why it does not affect early game (explains why you didn’t have it yet too): Thralls.
If i have none placed (no matter where, stations or world) i can log in with all animations 100%. Now place the first one and it start to happen. Now, why? I don’t have a clue.
That’s interesting.
Is it specifically placing a thrall in the open or is it placing them in workbenches too? Does it get worse with having more thralls placed, like some other bugs seem to?
Could it be connected to the various wheels of pain? I’m experiencing the clothing physics bug on this character as well, and I hear they might be related.
There was also a clothing/nudity bug with thralls caused by certain conditions with the wheels that I was getting until a few updates ago.
Both placing in workbenches and in the world trigger the bug when you log in - if you are affected. Removing them cause the game to load properly again… sometimes it happen without thralls too. I’m just happy for the mirror from CharEditLite be able to fix this (when you change your char it regenerate without bugs) instead of dying once per log in.
Now this other issues i still didn’t had (i never made a high tier wheel thou, i always stick with the mid tier), but one that is correlated - actually is the same damn bug - is the “see inside the body when in first person”. Basically, since the animations don’t play properly and the neck/torso/something (i guess is the whole skeleton) is “locked”, the first person camera just rotates in place, making you see inside the meshes when looking down.
Sad, is a useful mod overall. The first person camera bug only happen when your animations are bugged - strange that you have only one part of the issue. Once you die/reset the character all is normal again.
I just started playing a bit again after taking a long break due to bugs not getting fixed in a timely fashion.
This bug hit me in a single player game. It is almost all the time now. I have to use the mirror mod to reset the character to fix it.
The Mitrean Ankh and Frost Axe both miss bodies on flat surfaces. The Picaxe can’t hit anything low on flat surfaces (like short rocks), Spear can’t hit spiders with the heavy attack (Being attacked by three spiders and finding that out was fun) the regular attack combo will hit with the swiping spear.
In all cases crouching or something moving around to get you to get a little lower will allow you to make contact.
I’ve given up on the Single player Thrall Camps not spawning or the Hostile creature duplication bug that can lead a single hostile animal becoming 2-6 (which seems to be associated with entering and leaving grids) but this one is totally game breaking. I shouldn’t have to Bethesda the situation by using mobs.
